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By: bota on 11/27/11
I agree with Vinson. Approaching education with the same "politically correct" mindset of a soccer league is a disease that is not going to be easily resolved. When Ashley fails to turn in her homework it can't be brushed aside with a "bad break" or "good job" response or the (everyone gets one) trophy and a (we don't keep score) approach. We can't fake an education nor can we fail to keep score. Educating children is like making an omelete, you can't do it without breaking some eggs and diplomas have to represent a greater level of achievement than a soccer trophy.
I agree with Vinson. Approaching education with the same "politically correct" mindset of a soccer league is a disease that is not going to be easily resolved. When Ashley fails to turn in her homework it can't be brushed aside with a "bad break" or "good job" response or the (everyone gets one) trophy and a (we don't keep score) approach. We can't fake an education nor can we fail to keep score. Educating children is like making an omelete, you can't do it without breaking some eggs and diplomas have to represent a greater level of achievement than a soccer trophy.
By: hspeaks on 11/28/11
As a society, we are guilty of a sin worthy of the death penalty for herding our children through the school system without making sure they have decent life skills. We shouldn't blame the teachers but we should blame goverment for not giving our teachers what they need to teach the right way. If a student acts out and gets in ttrouble, the teacher should know he has the support of the system. The way it is now, some money hunrgry parent will file a lawsuit aagainst the teacher, and the school backs off and the teacher is left alone to deal with it. That's part of the problem. Vinson is right, all some educators in the system are worried about is getting a "monthly check".
As a society, we are guilty of a sin worthy of the death penalty for herding our children through the school system without making sure they have decent life skills. We shouldn't blame the teachers but we should blame goverment for not giving our teachers what they need to teach the right way. If a student acts out and gets in ttrouble, the teacher should know he has the support of the system. The way it is now, some money hunrgry parent will file a lawsuit aagainst the teacher, and the school backs off and the teacher is left alone to deal with it. That's part of the problem. Vinson is right, all some educators in the system are worried about is getting a "monthly check".
By: canalou on 11/28/11
Shh...I'll be blasted for this...hell, here goes!!...I blame parents...single and married...if we don't get education, drive and hope at home, it's too much for teachers to do it for us...for the record, I 'm no teacher....don't blame the government for failure...Lord knows, the government has tried...
Shh...I'll be blasted for this...hell, here goes!!...I blame parents...single and married...if we don't get education, drive and hope at home, it's too much for teachers to do it for us...for the record, I 'm no teacher....don't blame the government for failure...Lord knows, the government has tried...
By: hspeaks on 11/29/11
Canalou, I completely agree with you when you said that a child's education starts at the home with the parents. but our system is so out of whack that it's gone beyond that.Our teachers don't have the same discipline in the classroom like they did years ago. Kids get away with murder in the school these days and many times teachers back off taking actions for fear of losing their job. It's like a domino effect. The student acts up. The teacher takes it to the principal. The principal takes it to school superintendant. The parents threaten to sue all the above. Everyone backs off - I seen it happen more than once. The reason they back off is they dont want to put their job at risk. They need that "monthly check".
Canalou, I completely agree with you when you said that a child's education starts at the home with the parents. but our system is so out of whack that it's gone beyond that.Our teachers don't have the same discipline in the classroom like they did years ago. Kids get away with murder in the school these days and many times teachers back off taking actions for fear of losing their job. It's like a domino effect. The student acts up. The teacher takes it to the principal. The principal takes it to school superintendant. The parents threaten to sue all the above. Everyone backs off - I seen it happen more than once. The reason they back off is they dont want to put their job at risk. They need that "monthly check".
By: protector on 12/1/11
And....I wish every law maker and power to be who haven't been in a classroom in yrs. who devised this stupid evaluation process...could spend a week in any classroom. My first teaching job was in Marshall Co. at an elementary school back in the mid 90's. The principal asked me if I wanted a wooden paddle like the other teachers have received. I thought he was so backwards and said no thank you. Well, those kids knew who had the paddle and who didn't have it. The next yr. I got the paddle..and paddled several students. Only regretted paddling, one, however. Still have it and keep it in view for my children to see at home and have used it. They love looking at all the children's name written on it who got paddled. Backwards....nope. I learned that lesson fast!
And....I wish every law maker and power to be who haven't been in a classroom in yrs. who devised this stupid evaluation process...could spend a week in any classroom. My first teaching job was in Marshall Co. at an elementary school back in the mid 90's. The principal asked me if I wanted a wooden paddle like the other teachers have received. I thought he was so backwards and said no thank you. Well, those kids knew who had the paddle and who didn't have it. The next yr. I got the paddle..and paddled several students. Only regretted paddling, one, however. Still have it and keep it in view for my children to see at home and have used it. They love looking at all the children's name written on it who got paddled. Backwards....nope. I learned that lesson fast!
By: appdancer on 12/2/11
Mr. Vinson.. How did you learn the "secret": Everyone passes today in all of our public schools in Rutherford County - and perhaps most everywhere!! By the fourth or fifth grade, students learn this ( They are NOT stupid!) and forever thereafter they know they do not have to work to pass.
Because of this practice, we are ALL the losers. After a teaching career in public school classrooms of more than 40 years, I can assure EVERYONE that students, more times than not, will rise to the occasion. When they are "given grades", they have no concept of appreciation for a job well done - for the establishment of a good work ethic. This creates a lifetime practice and is sad for them and for us. And, for the life of me, I cannot know when or how this all started!?
But it CAN be stopped. .. All it will take is one school system.. perhaps even one principal in one school.. to draw a line in the sand.. and say and MEAN it, "This MUST be accomplished before you pass to another grade or class. It will take two or three years of adjustment; all staff must pull together and parents must be realize that it will happen. Those schools that have labeled all classes as "honor classes" (What? Our school have a student who is NOT an "honor student"!?) must wise up! I hate to be negative, but I doubt I'll live to see it, but I do believe that one day it will happen.. and we'll all be better for it!
Steve Cates
Mr. Vinson.. How did you learn the "secret": Everyone passes today in all of our public schools in Rutherford County - and perhaps most everywhere!! By the fourth or fifth grade, students learn this ( They are NOT stupid!) and forever thereafter they know they do not have to work to pass.
Because of this practice, we are ALL the losers. After a teaching career in public school classrooms of more than 40 years, I can assure EVERYONE that students, more times than not, will rise to the occasion. When they are "given grades", they have no concept of appreciation for a job well done - for the establishment of a good work ethic. This creates a lifetime practice and is sad for them and for us. And, for the life of me, I cannot know when or how this all started!?
But it CAN be stopped. .. All it will take is one school system.. perhaps even one principal in one school.. to draw a line in the sand.. and say and MEAN it, "This MUST be accomplished before you pass to another grade or class. It will take two or three years of adjustment; all staff must pull together and parents must be realize that it will happen. Those schools that have labeled all classes as "honor classes" (What? Our school have a student who is NOT an "honor student"!?) must wise up! I hate to be negative, but I doubt I'll live to see it, but I do believe that one day it will happen.. and we'll all be better for it!
Steve Cates
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