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By: kennethlorin on 4/9/09
Why are over half the fines unpaid? Do violators have a choice?
Why are over half the fines unpaid? Do violators have a choice?
By: devolver on 4/9/09
$617,000 collected
$327,000 outstanding
________
$944,000 total fines
that makes it just over 1/3 of the fines being unpaid. They DO have a choice as to whether or not they pay the fine. However, there is a penalty for choosing NOT to pay the fine; Loss of your drivers license or something along those lines.
$617,000 collected
$327,000 outstanding
________
$944,000 total fines
that makes it just over 1/3 of the fines being unpaid. They DO have a choice as to whether or not they pay the fine. However, there is a penalty for choosing NOT to pay the fine; Loss of your drivers license or something along those lines.
By: nbouldin on 4/9/09
A whopping $118,000 a month assuming all fines are paid. Or $83,375 as it stands now.
A whopping $118,000 a month assuming all fines are paid. Or $83,375 as it stands now.
By: TheFiveO on 4/9/09
Devolver these cameras' fines are civil fines, not criminal ones, and unpaid fines accrue interest. At some point a bench warrant could be issued; civil courts cannot suspend drivers license for non payment of civil fines. About all they could do is find you in contempt and fine you for that.
Devolver these cameras' fines are civil fines, not criminal ones, and unpaid fines accrue interest. At some point a bench warrant could be issued; civil courts cannot suspend drivers license for non payment of civil fines. About all they could do is find you in contempt and fine you for that.
By: barrettbear on 4/9/09
I have noticed that drivers use more caution at these intersections. Reading how the cameras have reduced the number of T-bone crashes is good news.
I have noticed that drivers use more caution at these intersections. Reading how the cameras have reduced the number of T-bone crashes is good news.
By: Macgyver on 4/9/09
So how much of the money from citations stays in the city? I thought 2/3 of the fine went to the company that installed and service's the cameras.
So how much of the money from citations stays in the city? I thought 2/3 of the fine went to the company that installed and service's the cameras.
By: perseveretolive on 4/9/09
unpaid fines will go on your credit report...that is all, the same as parking tickets.
unpaid fines will go on your credit report...that is all, the same as parking tickets.
By: Farmall on 4/9/09
Ah, a new revenue stream, beats my taxes going up.
Ah, a new revenue stream, beats my taxes going up.
By: UnionLady1055 on 4/10/09
The caution light is a 2 second timer. So rear end crashes are up 40%. I bet the insurance companies don't agree with the comment "making streets safer".
The caution light is a 2 second timer. So rear end crashes are up 40%. I bet the insurance companies don't agree with the comment "making streets safer".
By: bota on 4/10/09
Hey UnionLady
"But in the cases of rear-end crashes, he explained, not a single police report cited stopping for a red light as a cause. The reports did cite all of the previously mentioned reasons."
Hey UnionLady
"But in the cases of rear-end crashes, he explained, not a single police report cited stopping for a red light as a cause. The reports did cite all of the previously mentioned reasons."
By: hat4rack on 4/10/09
I suspect safer is probably agreed to by the insurance agencies too though. If a driver is it from behind they can claim whiplash (which would be bad enough alone). The offending driver seldom sees *any* bodily damage. T-bones however, inflict much more damage (vehicular & bodily) - especially to the person who was T-boned. And even the offending driver sees more severe and costly damages in a T-bone.
I suspect safer is probably agreed to by the insurance agencies too though. If a driver is it from behind they can claim whiplash (which would be bad enough alone). The offending driver seldom sees *any* bodily damage. T-bones however, inflict much more damage (vehicular & bodily) - especially to the person who was T-boned. And even the offending driver sees more severe and costly damages in a T-bone.
By: devolver on 4/10/09
TheFiveO: How can a bench warrant be issued on a civil offense? I'm guessing for something like "Failure to appear", but seems harsh for a civil offense...?
As for any "results" of the "effects" of the red-light cameras, I'd much prefer to see the results of an independent study. When someone has a vested interest in something, their data tends to be skewed in their favor.
TheFiveO: How can a bench warrant be issued on a civil offense? I'm guessing for something like "Failure to appear", but seems harsh for a civil offense...?
As for any "results" of the "effects" of the red-light cameras, I'd much prefer to see the results of an independent study. When someone has a vested interest in something, their data tends to be skewed in their favor.
By: bota on 4/10/09
Where does the data come from for an "independent" study? To be an independent study the data would have to come from a source other than the police reports.
Where does the data come from for an "independent" study? To be an independent study the data would have to come from a source other than the police reports.
By: devolver on 4/10/09
That's a good question, actually. I would imagine the data comes from the same source, but is analyzed with more scrutiny. Obviously the Police Dept wants the red light cameras to be a success, otherwise it might make them look bad. So, in comes a third party with no interest in the outcome, you get less skewed or favored results. Just google "independent study red light camera" and you'll find there are many of them out there, some are worth reading.
That's a good question, actually. I would imagine the data comes from the same source, but is analyzed with more scrutiny. Obviously the Police Dept wants the red light cameras to be a success, otherwise it might make them look bad. So, in comes a third party with no interest in the outcome, you get less skewed or favored results. Just google "independent study red light camera" and you'll find there are many of them out there, some are worth reading.
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