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By: republicaninboro on 12/24/09
Why won't Rutherford County classify pit bulls as dangerous animals and outlaw them? I believe Cannon County and or the town of Woodbury already has. The brothers were lucky in this incident.
Why won't Rutherford County classify pit bulls as dangerous animals and outlaw them? I believe Cannon County and or the town of Woodbury already has. The brothers were lucky in this incident.
By: CAYBABY85 on 12/24/09
Please don't let the ingnorance of uninformed people outlaw a beloved and wonderful breed of dog. Lets outlaw all small dogs since they can be nippy, and bite alot. In cases like these the owners should be punished, and held accountable for letting this happen. You train your dog to shape his or her behavior. If this is a learned trait, they see they are doing nothing wrong. What is next, outlawing the race that has commited the most crimes??? Please lets use our heads and do the right thing here.
Please don't let the ingnorance of uninformed people outlaw a beloved and wonderful breed of dog. Lets outlaw all small dogs since they can be nippy, and bite alot. In cases like these the owners should be punished, and held accountable for letting this happen. You train your dog to shape his or her behavior. If this is a learned trait, they see they are doing nothing wrong. What is next, outlawing the race that has commited the most crimes??? Please lets use our heads and do the right thing here.
By: abc123 on 12/24/09
"You train your dog to shape his or her behavior"
I disagree with this statement as I just had to put down my beloved small dog because he bit a neighbor child. Didn't even break the skin, but he attacked this child and I in no way trained or shaped this behavior! ALL dogs are unpredictable and when it is a large dog it is especially dangerous. The majority of Pitt Bulls may be good dogs, but the bottom line is they do NOT have a reputation as dangerous for no reason. They can turn on people and when they do they are so powerful and large that most people could not fight them off. And the difference in large dogs and small dogs is that small dogs could not kill someone. Please don't be one of the "ignorant and uninformed" people you speak of and think that pitt bulls cannot kill someone!!!
"You train your dog to shape his or her behavior"
I disagree with this statement as I just had to put down my beloved small dog because he bit a neighbor child. Didn't even break the skin, but he attacked this child and I in no way trained or shaped this behavior! ALL dogs are unpredictable and when it is a large dog it is especially dangerous. The majority of Pitt Bulls may be good dogs, but the bottom line is they do NOT have a reputation as dangerous for no reason. They can turn on people and when they do they are so powerful and large that most people could not fight them off. And the difference in large dogs and small dogs is that small dogs could not kill someone. Please don't be one of the "ignorant and uninformed" people you speak of and think that pitt bulls cannot kill someone!!!
By: Macgyver on 12/24/09
I watched a pit bull take down a cow once. Quite impressive as I was only 12 years old or so. We had one in the fraternity and it really was the sweetest dog ever. He ended up spending his days on a farm and passed. He had a hip disease that killed him. Dogs can be trained we all know that, but they never forget their insticts.
I watched a pit bull take down a cow once. Quite impressive as I was only 12 years old or so. We had one in the fraternity and it really was the sweetest dog ever. He ended up spending his days on a farm and passed. He had a hip disease that killed him. Dogs can be trained we all know that, but they never forget their insticts.
By: aeckfam on 12/24/09
abc123- Small dogs can definitely cause a fatality! A non fatal dog bite can cause a fatal bacterial infection- that dog bite could come from a pit bull or a chihuahua or a lab. (Many fatal dog bites are from the associated infection and not the wound itself)
Pit bulls are probably the most abused and abandoned dogs in the US- used for fighting by white trash and ghetto thugs. As a result, there are a lot of dangerous pit bulls. But it is definitely not the breed (not their DNA) which makes them anymore able to attack than any other canine. It is not the pit bull's fault. It is the dog fighting worthless class of human beings fault.
abc123- Small dogs can definitely cause a fatality! A non fatal dog bite can cause a fatal bacterial infection- that dog bite could come from a pit bull or a chihuahua or a lab. (Many fatal dog bites are from the associated infection and not the wound itself)
Pit bulls are probably the most abused and abandoned dogs in the US- used for fighting by white trash and ghetto thugs. As a result, there are a lot of dangerous pit bulls. But it is definitely not the breed (not their DNA) which makes them anymore able to attack than any other canine. It is not the pit bull's fault. It is the dog fighting worthless class of human beings fault.
By: aeckfam on 12/24/09
Also, the kid your dog bit must have been a real whiny brat. How do you say a dog needs to be put down for biting when it has never broken the skin of a human? I could see where you might see a warning sign/behavior which could tell you not to allow your dog to play with children or be let loose in the yard...but to kill it for not actually hurting anyone?
Also, the kid your dog bit must have been a real whiny brat. How do you say a dog needs to be put down for biting when it has never broken the skin of a human? I could see where you might see a warning sign/behavior which could tell you not to allow your dog to play with children or be let loose in the yard...but to kill it for not actually hurting anyone?
By: abc123 on 12/25/09
Aeckfam - How dare you criticize me for a heart wrenching decision I had to make. I LOVED that dog. My whole family is suffering because we made a decision that we agonized over and you are going to criticize us for doing what we thought was the responsible thing???
Aeckfam - How dare you criticize me for a heart wrenching decision I had to make. I LOVED that dog. My whole family is suffering because we made a decision that we agonized over and you are going to criticize us for doing what we thought was the responsible thing???
By: attagirl on 12/25/09
Yes, abc, you should be criticized for putting your dog down if the only reason you did it was because it "attacked" someone, yet didn't break the skin. Animal behavior is most certainly learned behavior. If you can't control your dog, you shouldn't own one.
Yes, abc, you should be criticized for putting your dog down if the only reason you did it was because it "attacked" someone, yet didn't break the skin. Animal behavior is most certainly learned behavior. If you can't control your dog, you shouldn't own one.
By: attagirl on 12/25/09
republican, the reason you believe pit bulls are more dangerous is because you don't see an article in the paper when the family labrador retriever attacks a child (which happened to my friend's family).
republican, the reason you believe pit bulls are more dangerous is because you don't see an article in the paper when the family labrador retriever attacks a child (which happened to my friend's family).
By: abc123 on 12/25/09
Attagirl - you are out of line!!! You are nothing.
Attagirl - you are out of line!!! You are nothing.
By: DMKW on 12/25/09
I can't understand why anyone would want a pit bull, to be honest. I feel sorry for them, and I do believe that the breed unfortunately has a higher percentage of stupid, irresponsible owners than any other. If you go to PAWS on any given day, it seems like half or more of the dogs there are pit bulls or pit crosses. That tells me that a significant percentage of people who choose these breeds are iresponsible because they are either not spaying/neutering them, or they are abandoning them, letting them run stray, or all three of the above. I feel so sorry for them because they are almost never adopted out because of the breed's bad reputation. So that means that the vast majority of them are euthanized. It's not fair and not their fault that stupid people are attracted to them because they think they are manly or intimidating. Many of the pit bulls at the shelter seem so friendly. Even though they break my heart as I'm walking by their cage and they are wagging their tails hopefully, I still wouldn't feel comfortable bringing one home around my children. I have the fear that they will turn on me (or worse, my kids or someone else's.) I love dogs but that is one breed that I find kind of scary. Stupid people. I don't know if outlawing the breed is the answer, but I do know that the owners of any pit bull (or any other dog) that attacks innocent people or others' pets need to be held accountable in a big way. Like jail time and huge fines and never being allowed to have a dog again. And I agree with other posters that a small dog that nips at someone is waaaayyyy different than a pit bull mauling someone. I would not automatically put down a small dog that nipped someone so lightly that it didn't even break the skin. That is like swatting a fly with a hammer. Of course, you didn't give the particulars, but often in those cases it's because the child is teasing or threatening the dog. Proper socialization around children at a young age will usually prevent dogs from fear-biting. Fear biting is WAY different than 2 kids minding their own business playing football in their yard and dogs running up and attacking.
I can't understand why anyone would want a pit bull, to be honest. I feel sorry for them, and I do believe that the breed unfortunately has a higher percentage of stupid, irresponsible owners than any other. If you go to PAWS on any given day, it seems like half or more of the dogs there are pit bulls or pit crosses. That tells me that a significant percentage of people who choose these breeds are iresponsible because they are either not spaying/neutering them, or they are abandoning them, letting them run stray, or all three of the above. I feel so sorry for them because they are almost never adopted out because of the breed's bad reputation. So that means that the vast majority of them are euthanized. It's not fair and not their fault that stupid people are attracted to them because they think they are manly or intimidating. Many of the pit bulls at the shelter seem so friendly. Even though they break my heart as I'm walking by their cage and they are wagging their tails hopefully, I still wouldn't feel comfortable bringing one home around my children. I have the fear that they will turn on me (or worse, my kids or someone else's.) I love dogs but that is one breed that I find kind of scary. Stupid people. I don't know if outlawing the breed is the answer, but I do know that the owners of any pit bull (or any other dog) that attacks innocent people or others' pets need to be held accountable in a big way. Like jail time and huge fines and never being allowed to have a dog again. And I agree with other posters that a small dog that nips at someone is waaaayyyy different than a pit bull mauling someone. I would not automatically put down a small dog that nipped someone so lightly that it didn't even break the skin. That is like swatting a fly with a hammer. Of course, you didn't give the particulars, but often in those cases it's because the child is teasing or threatening the dog. Proper socialization around children at a young age will usually prevent dogs from fear-biting. Fear biting is WAY different than 2 kids minding their own business playing football in their yard and dogs running up and attacking.
By: attagirl on 12/25/09
I'm out of line for telling you that if you can't control your dog you shouldn't own one? I think you're out of line for sentencing your dog to death for "biting" a (probably pestering) child, yet not even breaking the skin.
I'm out of line for telling you that if you can't control your dog you shouldn't own one? I think you're out of line for sentencing your dog to death for "biting" a (probably pestering) child, yet not even breaking the skin.
By: aeckfam on 12/25/09
abc123- What is out of line is someone putting down their own dog without a legitimate reason.
abc123- What is out of line is someone putting down their own dog without a legitimate reason.
By: aeckfam on 12/25/09
Oh...and I am "criticizing" because the responsible things to do (when you see a warning sign of aggression, but no physical harm has resulted from a dog) would be:
1. Get your dog in a training program
2. Keep the dog in your yard behind a fence or tied up (to ensure it stays on your property)
3. Keep the dog leashed at all other times
4. Do not allow strangers/children to play with the dog
Oh...and I am "criticizing" because the responsible things to do (when you see a warning sign of aggression, but no physical harm has resulted from a dog) would be:
1. Get your dog in a training program
2. Keep the dog in your yard behind a fence or tied up (to ensure it stays on your property)
3. Keep the dog leashed at all other times
4. Do not allow strangers/children to play with the dog
By: abc123 on 12/26/09
Ok, this is mainly my fault for putting my personal business on the internet for strangers to judge. You don't know all of the circumstances and it is not as simple as you would like to make it seem. I did try training, I did not let the dog roam, but I have children and my house is an open door, so the idea of keeping the dog away from people all of the time is unrealistic unless I just kept it kenneled all of the time. Anyway, I am not going to explain myself anymore, I made the responsible decision in our situation, my vet agreed and that is all I will say. I agree that RESPONSIBLE pet owners are lacking in most of these situations (talking about the article now) but bottom line is that pit bulls and most large powerful breeds of dog are unpredictable and unless you are able to control every waking minute of a dogs life, which is not going to happen, you should not own one.
Ok, this is mainly my fault for putting my personal business on the internet for strangers to judge. You don't know all of the circumstances and it is not as simple as you would like to make it seem. I did try training, I did not let the dog roam, but I have children and my house is an open door, so the idea of keeping the dog away from people all of the time is unrealistic unless I just kept it kenneled all of the time. Anyway, I am not going to explain myself anymore, I made the responsible decision in our situation, my vet agreed and that is all I will say. I agree that RESPONSIBLE pet owners are lacking in most of these situations (talking about the article now) but bottom line is that pit bulls and most large powerful breeds of dog are unpredictable and unless you are able to control every waking minute of a dogs life, which is not going to happen, you should not own one.
By: attagirl on 12/26/09
I would need to know a whole lot more before I believed it was the right decision to kill a pet because of what you described. Maybe he was 15 years old and suffering from dementia? That would make it okay.
I would need to know a whole lot more before I believed it was the right decision to kill a pet because of what you described. Maybe he was 15 years old and suffering from dementia? That would make it okay.
By: Curious on 12/26/09
I recently did some studying about pit bulls, or Staffordshire Bull Terriers, starting with the AKC website: http://www.akc.org/breeds/staffordshire_bull_terrier/index.cfm because our future son-in-law loves them and his family has bred and raised them as loving pets. Our instinct was to fear them because of the ones who have attacked other animals and humans ... the only ones we hear about in the press.
AKC says, " While he is a sweet-tempered, affectionate dog, his strength and determination require an experienced owner who can work with him in a firm, but gentle way." Also very interesting was a bit of history is that in England, where the breed was developed, any animals that showed aggressiveness to humans were culled out and not used for breeding so as to not pass on that trait. When the breed was brought to America, that practice was not continued, and so now we have bad blood lines that produce these more aggressive dogs.
What's the answer?? Perhaps some way of licensing breeders, including back-yard breeders, so that they do not breed dogs known to be aggressive or unpredictable. Enforcement is another story.
I recently did some studying about pit bulls, or Staffordshire Bull Terriers, starting with the AKC website: http://www.akc.org/breeds/staffordshire_bull_terrier/index.cfm because our future son-in-law loves them and his family has bred and raised them as loving pets. Our instinct was to fear them because of the ones who have attacked other animals and humans ... the only ones we hear about in the press.
AKC says, " While he is a sweet-tempered, affectionate dog, his strength and determination require an experienced owner who can work with him in a firm, but gentle way." Also very interesting was a bit of history is that in England, where the breed was developed, any animals that showed aggressiveness to humans were culled out and not used for breeding so as to not pass on that trait. When the breed was brought to America, that practice was not continued, and so now we have bad blood lines that produce these more aggressive dogs.
What's the answer?? Perhaps some way of licensing breeders, including back-yard breeders, so that they do not breed dogs known to be aggressive or unpredictable. Enforcement is another story.
By: attagirl on 12/26/09
Any animal can be trained to be vicious. Even cocker spaniels maul little kids. In fact, the smaller breeds tend to inflict more damage because they tend to bite repeatedly, causing lots of cuts, wherease the larger breeds tend to bite one big time. My veterinarian once told me that he'd rather be bit by a german shepherd than a chihuahua.
Any animal can be trained to be vicious. Even cocker spaniels maul little kids. In fact, the smaller breeds tend to inflict more damage because they tend to bite repeatedly, causing lots of cuts, wherease the larger breeds tend to bite one big time. My veterinarian once told me that he'd rather be bit by a german shepherd than a chihuahua.
By: Farmall on 12/28/09
The AKC defines the most agressive breeds in the world as loving pets. Such as the Presa Canary. Pit bulls and the rest of the fighting dogs are dangerous for one reason, psi. Their bite can crush bones. Any dog that shows agressive behavior should be put down, especially if it has the jaw structure that affords this kind of strength. Remember that this is just an animal not a person.
The AKC defines the most agressive breeds in the world as loving pets. Such as the Presa Canary. Pit bulls and the rest of the fighting dogs are dangerous for one reason, psi. Their bite can crush bones. Any dog that shows agressive behavior should be put down, especially if it has the jaw structure that affords this kind of strength. Remember that this is just an animal not a person.
By: WingNut on 12/28/09
Many adoption agencies test for aggressive behavior in dogs, and euthanize an animal that shows certain types of aggression. Alternatively, aggression can often be addressed with appropriate corrective training. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_attack
Many adoption agencies test for aggressive behavior in dogs, and euthanize an animal that shows certain types of aggression. Alternatively, aggression can often be addressed with appropriate corrective training. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_attack
By: FLASHmeIMrandy on 2/16/10
abc123, apparently you never heard about the Pomeranian that mauled a 9 week old baby. Any dog has the capacity to be dangerous. For the most part it is a matter of training combined with breeding background. And all you people who are so ignorant to think that a breed should be outlawed, maybe you should do some research. Pit Bull Terriers in general came in second only to Golden Retrievers in many tests to decide if they're hospitable. Yes, they beat your beloved Labradors and Beagles. Most people just don't know how to train their dog, which usually leads to more attacks. Pits were not bred to be fighting dogs because of their aggression, it was because of their strength and willpower. The American Pit Bull Terrier used to be America's favorite dog, and then because of negative media, everyone suddenly became afraid of them. I can almost guarantee you that this attack, like many others, was another breed mistaken for a pit. Don't believe me? Check this out: http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html And Farmall, you're an ignorant SOB too. It's people like you who should never be allowed to touch an animal in the first place, because it's people like you that wind up with aggressive pets in the first place. Maybe if you treated your pet with care as though he was a member of your family and not "just an animal" we'd have less problems with this.
abc123, apparently you never heard about the Pomeranian that mauled a 9 week old baby. Any dog has the capacity to be dangerous. For the most part it is a matter of training combined with breeding background. And all you people who are so ignorant to think that a breed should be outlawed, maybe you should do some research. Pit Bull Terriers in general came in second only to Golden Retrievers in many tests to decide if they're hospitable. Yes, they beat your beloved Labradors and Beagles. Most people just don't know how to train their dog, which usually leads to more attacks. Pits were not bred to be fighting dogs because of their aggression, it was because of their strength and willpower. The American Pit Bull Terrier used to be America's favorite dog, and then because of negative media, everyone suddenly became afraid of them. I can almost guarantee you that this attack, like many others, was another breed mistaken for a pit. Don't believe me? Check this out: http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html And Farmall, you're an ignorant SOB too. It's people like you who should never be allowed to touch an animal in the first place, because it's people like you that wind up with aggressive pets in the first place. Maybe if you treated your pet with care as though he was a member of your family and not "just an animal" we'd have less problems with this.
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