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By: Geana on 8/3/08
Dress codes are good for many reasons. For starters, no more of our kids trying to keep up with the Jones' kids. No more snickers from other children making fun of those wearing Walmart brands instead of Hollister.
As far as Benatti's thoughts go, I'm understanding but a child's body type is a body type, no matter what type of clothing they wear. The right size is what a person fits into, so if children's won't work, move into juniors or adults and have them altered where necessary.
With everyone else uniform, there's no reason for a child to feel self-conscious.
Dress codes are good for many reasons. For starters, no more of our kids trying to keep up with the Jones' kids. No more snickers from other children making fun of those wearing Walmart brands instead of Hollister.
As far as Benatti's thoughts go, I'm understanding but a child's body type is a body type, no matter what type of clothing they wear. The right size is what a person fits into, so if children's won't work, move into juniors or adults and have them altered where necessary.
With everyone else uniform, there's no reason for a child to feel self-conscious.
By: ok2ask on 8/3/08
I agree dress codes are okay. I disagree if MNE is the only city school to do this.
The real dilema is to find out why kids transfer from MNE after leaving MNP? Maybe if the kids at the primary all stayed at the elementary you would not have to worry about dress codes. It's time to find out why what was once considered one of the top three schools in the city is now in the bottom three.
I agree dress codes are okay. I disagree if MNE is the only city school to do this.
The real dilema is to find out why kids transfer from MNE after leaving MNP? Maybe if the kids at the primary all stayed at the elementary you would not have to worry about dress codes. It's time to find out why what was once considered one of the top three schools in the city is now in the bottom three.
By: devolver on 8/3/08
They're just trying to get all the kids prepared for the Orwellian society we have in store for them.
Pacify a populace by stripping their identity.
They're just trying to get all the kids prepared for the Orwellian society we have in store for them.
Pacify a populace by stripping their identity.
By: chickenpoop on 8/3/08
Ok2ask:
McFadden went magnet so MNE picked up that bunch , plus the MN area has gone down hill in the last few years.
Ok2ask:
McFadden went magnet so MNE picked up that bunch , plus the MN area has gone down hill in the last few years.
By: Paused on 8/3/08
“It’s totally taking way from the self expression these kids have,” she said. “If a little girl wants to wear a pink shirt with a flower on it, then let her.”
If the ONLY way your child can express herself is through her clothes....she has bigger problems than a uniform.
“It’s totally taking way from the self expression these kids have,” she said. “If a little girl wants to wear a pink shirt with a flower on it, then let her.”
If the ONLY way your child can express herself is through her clothes....she has bigger problems than a uniform.
By: Geana on 8/3/08
I don't believe that MFE is the only school to do this. I'm pretty positive another elementary school, Hobgood, off Mercury Blvd. adopted a dress code a few years ago. This may have changed again. I don't know.
Ok2Ask -- good questions, but I don't believe the quality of the school's educational system has much to do with which schools are top. Clearly, changing demographics as well as the addition of brand new schools and teachers, have altered status-quo. I also think it's a blessing that M'Boro offers choices of alternative schools for those truly unhappy with zoned schools.
I don't believe that MFE is the only school to do this. I'm pretty positive another elementary school, Hobgood, off Mercury Blvd. adopted a dress code a few years ago. This may have changed again. I don't know.
Ok2Ask -- good questions, but I don't believe the quality of the school's educational system has much to do with which schools are top. Clearly, changing demographics as well as the addition of brand new schools and teachers, have altered status-quo. I also think it's a blessing that M'Boro offers choices of alternative schools for those truly unhappy with zoned schools.
By: katie on 8/3/08
I think dress codes are perfect for all schools in Rutherford County. If a dress code is just in for a few schools, what happens when the children go to middle school. Probably not much of a dress code. Some schools have a tuck in policy and no logos on shirts but then comes high school where they can wear flip flops clothes that are to big pants that are falling off halter tops etc. Why try to teach children what to wear when they are young,and then when they get to high school the wear whatever and are no longer interested in learning school work. I feel that the dress code should be carried all through school like they do in foreign countries, and then maybe our children will not worry about how they look, because they will all look alike.Then maybe they will have a much better education. Then maybe we will have less drop outs.
I think dress codes are perfect for all schools in Rutherford County. If a dress code is just in for a few schools, what happens when the children go to middle school. Probably not much of a dress code. Some schools have a tuck in policy and no logos on shirts but then comes high school where they can wear flip flops clothes that are to big pants that are falling off halter tops etc. Why try to teach children what to wear when they are young,and then when they get to high school the wear whatever and are no longer interested in learning school work. I feel that the dress code should be carried all through school like they do in foreign countries, and then maybe our children will not worry about how they look, because they will all look alike.Then maybe they will have a much better education. Then maybe we will have less drop outs.
By: Paused on 8/3/08
I believe the middle schools do have some sort of a dress code, but not nearly as strict.
I'm all for a uniform style for all the schools, I believe children are not taught at home that attending school is not the same as going to a night club, or sitting in gym class all day. I believe a uniform style dress code teaches appropriate dress for appropriate situations. Something I believe young adults coming out of high school have difficulty grasping. I did hear in middle school the students have to tuck in their shirts ("ok" by me), but they also have to tuck in sweatshirts and sweaters - which I hope isn't true, because that is obviously ignorant.
I believe the middle schools do have some sort of a dress code, but not nearly as strict.
I'm all for a uniform style for all the schools, I believe children are not taught at home that attending school is not the same as going to a night club, or sitting in gym class all day. I believe a uniform style dress code teaches appropriate dress for appropriate situations. Something I believe young adults coming out of high school have difficulty grasping. I did hear in middle school the students have to tuck in their shirts ("ok" by me), but they also have to tuck in sweatshirts and sweaters - which I hope isn't true, because that is obviously ignorant.
By: concernedparent on 8/3/08
I am a parent of a MNE child and don't have a problem with having a dress code. The biggest problem I have is finding clothes that fit. My child is a bigger girl than most girls her age but she is very proportionate. It's not so much about the style of the clothes not looking good on her or self esteem as it is just finding uniforms in her size( jr. 5-7) at reasonable costs. It is true that you can get one week's worth of clothes from Walmart for $60 if you child wears 4-6x or 7-16 but after that you are SOL. i've had to order clothes on line and pray they fit when they get here. And I haven't even been able to find very many stores that carry uniforms in the store period.
I feel that MNE did not do enough research on the logistics of uniforms for the student population before deciding to go that direction. After all it is one of a handful of elementary schools that have the 6th grade which translates to bigger kids all around. If anyone know of a place locally that carries junior size uniforms please post.
As for the MNE area going down hill the last few years, I'm not so sure about that. A lot of kids were lost to the Discovery school and McFadden which greatly decreased a certain element of the school population but the area in general is actually beginning a rejuvenating process. More and more younger families are moving into and reviving the older homes.
Also, what your child gets out of school depends more on the parent's emphasis on education and how much energy the parent's are willing to into their child's education than the school itself. Given a really bad school is just a really bad school and parental input can only go so far, but on the flip side, a really good school can seem really lousy if the parent's aren't doing their part.
Just my humble opinion.
I am a parent of a MNE child and don't have a problem with having a dress code. The biggest problem I have is finding clothes that fit. My child is a bigger girl than most girls her age but she is very proportionate. It's not so much about the style of the clothes not looking good on her or self esteem as it is just finding uniforms in her size( jr. 5-7) at reasonable costs. It is true that you can get one week's worth of clothes from Walmart for $60 if you child wears 4-6x or 7-16 but after that you are SOL. i've had to order clothes on line and pray they fit when they get here. And I haven't even been able to find very many stores that carry uniforms in the store period.
I feel that MNE did not do enough research on the logistics of uniforms for the student population before deciding to go that direction. After all it is one of a handful of elementary schools that have the 6th grade which translates to bigger kids all around. If anyone know of a place locally that carries junior size uniforms please post.
As for the MNE area going down hill the last few years, I'm not so sure about that. A lot of kids were lost to the Discovery school and McFadden which greatly decreased a certain element of the school population but the area in general is actually beginning a rejuvenating process. More and more younger families are moving into and reviving the older homes.
Also, what your child gets out of school depends more on the parent's emphasis on education and how much energy the parent's are willing to into their child's education than the school itself. Given a really bad school is just a really bad school and parental input can only go so far, but on the flip side, a really good school can seem really lousy if the parent's aren't doing their part.
Just my humble opinion.
By: enid0329 on 8/3/08
My daughter goes to Hobgood and they have a dress code. They do not have to have a collar on their shirt, but it has to be red, blue or white. Old Navy, Gap, Wal-mart, JC Penny all have a very good selection online. And if you get them and they don't fit, you can return them to the store instead of sending them back by mail. All in all, the dress code is a good thing in my opinion. My only complaint is that it is not as fun to shop for her. LOL. But I can really see how it helps lower income kids not feel insecure, and also, higher income kids not feel superior - which I think is just as important.
My daughter goes to Hobgood and they have a dress code. They do not have to have a collar on their shirt, but it has to be red, blue or white. Old Navy, Gap, Wal-mart, JC Penny all have a very good selection online. And if you get them and they don't fit, you can return them to the store instead of sending them back by mail. All in all, the dress code is a good thing in my opinion. My only complaint is that it is not as fun to shop for her. LOL. But I can really see how it helps lower income kids not feel insecure, and also, higher income kids not feel superior - which I think is just as important.
By: devolver on 8/3/08
All schools have dress codes. All of them. Can't show up naked, can ya? What about in a bathing suit? A dress code. Sure, they're necessary, but we have to be careful as to where we draw the line.
Children need to be able to express themselves. But, like Paused said, if your child's only way of expressing themselves is by what clothes they wear, then YES, there's a larger problem.
C'mon, guys, I think most of us are old enough that we never had to deal with uniform dress codes in school. We turned out fine, right? (some exceptions, I'm sure). I'm in no way from a privileged background. I didn't have the best sneakers or coolest jackets or clothing. And I certainly wasn't the most popular kid in school. But if anyone ever made fun of me for what I wore to school that day (and it happened), I didn't let it affect me. I'd go as far as to say it helped build up my incredibly cynical character.
There is no way to level the playing field with children. Or teens. Go ahead, put them in the same clothing. There will still be name calling, and kids being picked on. If not for the shoes they wear, then for how they style their hair (rhymed). It's the nature of things.
Now, the powers that be, our supposedly omniscient educators, believe that clothing is a distraction... This is ridiculous. Isn't part of the education process supposed to be, at least partly, about preparing a child to enter the world as an adult? Then, how, by shielding them from diversity (via clothing, style), are you preparing them for, say, college? Gosh, in college there will be young adults wearing whatever they see fit. Is that distracting? No. No it isn't.
Point being, its much ado about nothing. In the real world, we don't all wear Dulce & Gabbana, or whatever. Are we, as adults, embarrassed about such things? Apparently not. Just check out all the jokers wearing sweat pants at Wal-Mart. Zing!
All schools have dress codes. All of them. Can't show up naked, can ya? What about in a bathing suit? A dress code. Sure, they're necessary, but we have to be careful as to where we draw the line.
Children need to be able to express themselves. But, like Paused said, if your child's only way of expressing themselves is by what clothes they wear, then YES, there's a larger problem.
C'mon, guys, I think most of us are old enough that we never had to deal with uniform dress codes in school. We turned out fine, right? (some exceptions, I'm sure). I'm in no way from a privileged background. I didn't have the best sneakers or coolest jackets or clothing. And I certainly wasn't the most popular kid in school. But if anyone ever made fun of me for what I wore to school that day (and it happened), I didn't let it affect me. I'd go as far as to say it helped build up my incredibly cynical character.
There is no way to level the playing field with children. Or teens. Go ahead, put them in the same clothing. There will still be name calling, and kids being picked on. If not for the shoes they wear, then for how they style their hair (rhymed). It's the nature of things.
Now, the powers that be, our supposedly omniscient educators, believe that clothing is a distraction... This is ridiculous. Isn't part of the education process supposed to be, at least partly, about preparing a child to enter the world as an adult? Then, how, by shielding them from diversity (via clothing, style), are you preparing them for, say, college? Gosh, in college there will be young adults wearing whatever they see fit. Is that distracting? No. No it isn't.
Point being, its much ado about nothing. In the real world, we don't all wear Dulce & Gabbana, or whatever. Are we, as adults, embarrassed about such things? Apparently not. Just check out all the jokers wearing sweat pants at Wal-Mart. Zing!
By: enoughisenough on 8/4/08
I cannot understand the problem here. They are not requiring a true "uniform", just appropriate dress in certain prescribed colors. If you were buying your child oversized clothing or skimpy revealing outfits, then you are cause of this action in the first place!
I cannot understand the problem here. They are not requiring a true "uniform", just appropriate dress in certain prescribed colors. If you were buying your child oversized clothing or skimpy revealing outfits, then you are cause of this action in the first place!
By: lightchick on 8/4/08
I wore uniforms for most of my elementary and junior high years of school. My creativity was not supressed, it was redirected. I personally would love to see all the schools adobt some type of uniform especially the high schools. I never forget the first day I dropped my son off at high school. Right out front was a girl in white see through pants with a kelly green thong complete with whale tail.
I wore uniforms for most of my elementary and junior high years of school. My creativity was not supressed, it was redirected. I personally would love to see all the schools adobt some type of uniform especially the high schools. I never forget the first day I dropped my son off at high school. Right out front was a girl in white see through pants with a kelly green thong complete with whale tail.
By: devolver on 8/4/08
I'd bet your son hasn't forgotten that, either.
I'd bet your son hasn't forgotten that, either.
By: lightchick on 8/4/08
I'm sure he hasn't.
I'm sure he hasn't.
By: benatti on 8/8/08
I would like to say that my opinions were not expressed as clear as i had hoped when I spoke with this reporter. While, it is true my issues with finding clothes have been dificult, my biggest problem with the dress code is self expression and strict guidelines that have to be followed. I had plans of using hair accessories or other things for my daughter which are evidentally also not allowed.
Please don't misunderstand, my daughter has ABSOLUTEY NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER expressing herself in other ways. And anyone who has met her could tell you that. That was the whole reason I was even approached to do this interview! I just think even as a community we are getting closer and closer to living in a cloned society. It is a strong positive, in my opinion that children have their own ideas and be able to assert their independence. I was only giving my opinion...not trying to start a debate.
I would like to say that my opinions were not expressed as clear as i had hoped when I spoke with this reporter. While, it is true my issues with finding clothes have been dificult, my biggest problem with the dress code is self expression and strict guidelines that have to be followed. I had plans of using hair accessories or other things for my daughter which are evidentally also not allowed.
Please don't misunderstand, my daughter has ABSOLUTEY NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER expressing herself in other ways. And anyone who has met her could tell you that. That was the whole reason I was even approached to do this interview! I just think even as a community we are getting closer and closer to living in a cloned society. It is a strong positive, in my opinion that children have their own ideas and be able to assert their independence. I was only giving my opinion...not trying to start a debate.
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