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By: bennychaff on 7/28/09
Wasn't this brought up as a compromise to Murfreesboro not opting out? Events like the Spring Fling were at the center of our officials maintaining the ban. Why did the AG not speak up then? He comes out weeks after the fact saying that the compromise would have worked.
People need to stop looking at permit holders as a threat. Do a little research and see how many other states have these laws and where permit holders are allowed to carry. They have not turned into the wild west. What makes you think that TN will?
Look at all the time and energy spent on trying to keep law abiding citizens from carrying a gun. Why not focus on keeping guns out of the criminals hands and maybe we can clean up this city.
Police can't be everywhere. Permit holders just want a fighting chance against the real threats.
Wasn't this brought up as a compromise to Murfreesboro not opting out? Events like the Spring Fling were at the center of our officials maintaining the ban. Why did the AG not speak up then? He comes out weeks after the fact saying that the compromise would have worked.
People need to stop looking at permit holders as a threat. Do a little research and see how many other states have these laws and where permit holders are allowed to carry. They have not turned into the wild west. What makes you think that TN will?
Look at all the time and energy spent on trying to keep law abiding citizens from carrying a gun. Why not focus on keeping guns out of the criminals hands and maybe we can clean up this city.
Police can't be everywhere. Permit holders just want a fighting chance against the real threats.
By: abide on 7/28/09
AMEN bennychaff
AMEN bennychaff
By: mhm2a on 7/28/09
I am sure the criminals will take note and decide not to carry their weapons since the Attorney General has spoken.....
Roger Haley says “Our parks are not a place where individuals need to feel threatened to the point where they feel the need to go armed,”. He just does not get it. It is my right to carry and I do not need to feel threatened to do so.
I am sure the criminals will take note and decide not to carry their weapons since the Attorney General has spoken.....
Roger Haley says “Our parks are not a place where individuals need to feel threatened to the point where they feel the need to go armed,”. He just does not get it. It is my right to carry and I do not need to feel threatened to do so.
By: tjdmm on 7/28/09
As a mother of 4 boys that have for the last 13 years & currently still play baseball & football at public parks on organized teams, I would not want guns, permit or no allowed, for games, practices or otherwise. Tempers flare hot and fast sometimes. People, fans, coaches, umpires, referee's & parents are made to leave the fields. Anything could happen in a split second of angry determination due to a supposed bad call, close games, illegal tackle, etc.
As a mother of 4 boys that have for the last 13 years & currently still play baseball & football at public parks on organized teams, I would not want guns, permit or no allowed, for games, practices or otherwise. Tempers flare hot and fast sometimes. People, fans, coaches, umpires, referee's & parents are made to leave the fields. Anything could happen in a split second of angry determination due to a supposed bad call, close games, illegal tackle, etc.
By: Geana on 7/28/09
"Murfreesboro City Council then voted to opt out of the state law, placing a blanket ban on carry-permit holders from bringing guns into city parks."
That's all I wanted to read. Good for the City Council in making the right decisions. tjdmm voiced exactly the opinion I would have, so no need to repeat.
"Murfreesboro City Council then voted to opt out of the state law, placing a blanket ban on carry-permit holders from bringing guns into city parks."
That's all I wanted to read. Good for the City Council in making the right decisions. tjdmm voiced exactly the opinion I would have, so no need to repeat.
By: attagirl on 7/28/09
Seatbelts, helmets, child discipline, child school dress code, red light cameras ... how far do you people want the government to do up your hind end before you say "Enough!"?
I will NEVER walk on the greenway without my gun, law or no law. Until this city can get a grip on the rampant, out-of-control crime, I will carry my gun - period. I'll take my chances with being charged with carrying in a no-carry zone. So be it.
Seatbelts, helmets, child discipline, child school dress code, red light cameras ... how far do you people want the government to do up your hind end before you say "Enough!"?
I will NEVER walk on the greenway without my gun, law or no law. Until this city can get a grip on the rampant, out-of-control crime, I will carry my gun - period. I'll take my chances with being charged with carrying in a no-carry zone. So be it.
By: TFS94GT on 7/28/09
Tempers are "hot and fast" in traffic too. Yet you don't hear about permit holders jumping out in traffic shooting at each other like the wild west images some of you people conjure up. Implying that someone may shoot someone over an illegal tackle in a "split second of angry determination" makes me think you have anger problems and I wouldn't want my kids around you whether you had a gun or not.
Attagirl is right on the money and my gun goes everywhere I go as well.
Tempers are "hot and fast" in traffic too. Yet you don't hear about permit holders jumping out in traffic shooting at each other like the wild west images some of you people conjure up. Implying that someone may shoot someone over an illegal tackle in a "split second of angry determination" makes me think you have anger problems and I wouldn't want my kids around you whether you had a gun or not.
Attagirl is right on the money and my gun goes everywhere I go as well.
By: canalou on 7/29/09
I grew up in a town where just about all men went armed, and we had a killing a month in the bars...we had no parks.
I grew up in a town where just about all men went armed, and we had a killing a month in the bars...we had no parks.
By: TFS94GT on 7/29/09
Yeah, I'm definitely calling BS on that one especially coming from you. Where is this town? Texas in the mid 1800's? LMAO. Some of you people are so far out of touch with reality its ridiculous.
Yeah, I'm definitely calling BS on that one especially coming from you. Where is this town? Texas in the mid 1800's? LMAO. Some of you people are so far out of touch with reality its ridiculous.
By: abide on 7/29/09
canalou, we have a killing bout every night in nashville or the boro and it ain't people with permits doing the killing. The people with the blinders on need to take them off and see what is really going on, violent crime is on the rise you had better take note.
canalou, we have a killing bout every night in nashville or the boro and it ain't people with permits doing the killing. The people with the blinders on need to take them off and see what is really going on, violent crime is on the rise you had better take note.
By: Duvics on 7/29/09
If I'm with my family on the greenway and I see someone with a gun, I'm dialing the police.
You sit around saying that permit holders don't break the law and then you openly admit to flauting it? Nice hypocrisy.
Like I've said before, if you don't like Murfreesboro and you think it's going down the tube, move.
If I'm with my family on the greenway and I see someone with a gun, I'm dialing the police.
You sit around saying that permit holders don't break the law and then you openly admit to flauting it? Nice hypocrisy.
Like I've said before, if you don't like Murfreesboro and you think it's going down the tube, move.
By: TFS94GT on 7/29/09
You should call the cops because if you see a gun it will most likely be an intent criminal, just don't expect the cops to be there in time to help you. Its called a CONCEALED carry permit for a reason sparky. No one said they're going to "flaunt" it. People have had to jump through hoops to exercise their constitutionally guaranteed right to defend themselves and are going to do whatever it takes to make them feel safe.
Whats funny is that this law makes you feel all safe, warm, and fuzzy yet we're everywhere with our concealed weapons. Sitting next to you in traffic, a few seats away in the movies, the booth behind you at your favorite restaurant, shopping beside you at the grocery store, and the mall. You've never had a problem with a permit holder yet you support any law that would ban guns from places you frequent only because it makes you "feel" safer.
It has nothing to do with leaving Murfreesboro. Some people simply choose to not to be a victim but I suppose a pacifist wouldn't understand.
You should call the cops because if you see a gun it will most likely be an intent criminal, just don't expect the cops to be there in time to help you. Its called a CONCEALED carry permit for a reason sparky. No one said they're going to "flaunt" it. People have had to jump through hoops to exercise their constitutionally guaranteed right to defend themselves and are going to do whatever it takes to make them feel safe.
Whats funny is that this law makes you feel all safe, warm, and fuzzy yet we're everywhere with our concealed weapons. Sitting next to you in traffic, a few seats away in the movies, the booth behind you at your favorite restaurant, shopping beside you at the grocery store, and the mall. You've never had a problem with a permit holder yet you support any law that would ban guns from places you frequent only because it makes you "feel" safer.
It has nothing to do with leaving Murfreesboro. Some people simply choose to not to be a victim but I suppose a pacifist wouldn't understand.
By: tnlonestar on 7/30/09
Read with your own eyes & do research before you pass judgment of gun owners!
http://www.legallyarmed.com/resources/australia.htm
Up-Date On Australia
Gun Laws
Here's a thought to warm
some of your hearts .
From: Ed Chenel,
A police officer in Australia
Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the now available data from Down Under.
It has now been one year (12 months) since gun owners in Australia were forced By a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by Our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now available:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent;
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent);
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent as compared with the last one year period when private ownership of a firearm was legal. (NB: the law-abiding citizens did turn in their personal firearms, the criminal element did not and thus criminals in Australia still possess their guns.)
While data for the 25 years preceding the confiscation of privately owned guns showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months as criminals now are assured their victims will be unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.
Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in 'successfully ridding Australian society of guns.'
This story of well intentioned government intervention in the rights of lawful individuals to own and possess firearms won't be seen in the mainstream US media or on the American evening news.
Senator Obama who advocates a similar confiscation in the US will not be reporting any of this to you.
But, the Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens. Americans may want to take note before it's too late!
Read with your own eyes & do research before you pass judgment of gun owners!
http://www.legallyarmed.com/resources/australia.htm
Up-Date On Australia
Gun Laws
Here's a thought to warm
some of your hearts .
From: Ed Chenel,
A police officer in Australia
Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the now available data from Down Under.
It has now been one year (12 months) since gun owners in Australia were forced By a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by Our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now available:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent;
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent);
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent as compared with the last one year period when private ownership of a firearm was legal. (NB: the law-abiding citizens did turn in their personal firearms, the criminal element did not and thus criminals in Australia still possess their guns.)
While data for the 25 years preceding the confiscation of privately owned guns showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months as criminals now are assured their victims will be unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.
Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in 'successfully ridding Australian society of guns.'
This story of well intentioned government intervention in the rights of lawful individuals to own and possess firearms won't be seen in the mainstream US media or on the American evening news.
Senator Obama who advocates a similar confiscation in the US will not be reporting any of this to you.
But, the Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens. Americans may want to take note before it's too late!
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