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By: hts0628 on 8/11/09
I applaud Mr Gill for retracting the sibling rule. Now do the right thing and get rid of the grandfathering exception. If CMAS is to be a magnet school, then ALL rutherford county school children who can "make the grade" should be given a fair chance to attend. Base it on grades, not circumstance.
I applaud Mr Gill for retracting the sibling rule. Now do the right thing and get rid of the grandfathering exception. If CMAS is to be a magnet school, then ALL rutherford county school children who can "make the grade" should be given a fair chance to attend. Base it on grades, not circumstance.
By: Farmall on 8/11/09
And we will still get the dregs from the inner city, out at Buchanan.
And we will still get the dregs from the inner city, out at Buchanan.
By: enoughisenough on 8/11/09
What you are calling "dregs" need quality education also. Buchanan will get students from south of Main St., while those to the north will go to Oakland. Both of these areas are considered economically disadvantaged, but that does not disqualify those children from going to a new school.
What would you do Farmall? Round them up and stick them in the old Bradley Academy like we did in the 1950s...Might want to think before you show your true colors.
What you are calling "dregs" need quality education also. Buchanan will get students from south of Main St., while those to the north will go to Oakland. Both of these areas are considered economically disadvantaged, but that does not disqualify those children from going to a new school.
What would you do Farmall? Round them up and stick them in the old Bradley Academy like we did in the 1950s...Might want to think before you show your true colors.
By: Yester on 8/11/09
I simply do not understand how they arrived at "for the next 5 years". So if my son is in 7th grade, zoned Riverdale, is the board "promising" me Riverdale? May I assume he will be grandfathered in if I'm re-zoned. He would also be within this 5 year range, right? The elementary school portion of McFadden is not affected, only thier middle school grades and students currently enrolledin grades 6-8 in the school year 2010 should be the only ones grandfathered in.
I simply do not understand how they arrived at "for the next 5 years". So if my son is in 7th grade, zoned Riverdale, is the board "promising" me Riverdale? May I assume he will be grandfathered in if I'm re-zoned. He would also be within this 5 year range, right? The elementary school portion of McFadden is not affected, only thier middle school grades and students currently enrolledin grades 6-8 in the school year 2010 should be the only ones grandfathered in.
By: Farmall on 8/12/09
I choose to work hard and provide a good place and life for myself and my family. I escaped the inner city. So those who do very little to help themselves and their violent offspring get shipped to me to take care of and suffer from. Not all who go to central fit this catagory. But a lot of them do.
I choose to work hard and provide a good place and life for myself and my family. I escaped the inner city. So those who do very little to help themselves and their violent offspring get shipped to me to take care of and suffer from. Not all who go to central fit this catagory. But a lot of them do.
By: attagirl on 8/12/09
Farmall, you are a disgusting human being.
Good for you for "escaping" the inner city. My guess is you're a middle-aged white man, right? It was much easier for you to "escape" than it is for those currently in that situation, mainly because people like you still exist in this world.
Farmall, you are a disgusting human being.
Good for you for "escaping" the inner city. My guess is you're a middle-aged white man, right? It was much easier for you to "escape" than it is for those currently in that situation, mainly because people like you still exist in this world.
By: Farmall on 8/12/09
I am disgusting because I do all the things I am supposd to do, work hard, obey the law, and help others. (sorry attagirl not quite that old.) I just don't believe in helping those who refuse to help themselves.
I am disgusting because I do all the things I am supposd to do, work hard, obey the law, and help others. (sorry attagirl not quite that old.) I just don't believe in helping those who refuse to help themselves.
By: enoughisenough on 8/12/09
Farmall, you are a pig. You "escaped" the inner city? Good for you. Try to put the lives of these children into perspective. They didn't choose to be born into poverty. Their parents made that choice. In your perfect little world, they should be punished for what their parents did? The only a VERY FEW of the students at CMS are as you describe them, most are hardworking young people dealing with the situation the best they can. Every time you hear of ONE getting into trouble, there are 50 who went home, did their homework, watched some TV and went to bed at a reasonable hour.
Get your facts straight you disgusting excuse for a human being.
Farmall, you are a pig. You "escaped" the inner city? Good for you. Try to put the lives of these children into perspective. They didn't choose to be born into poverty. Their parents made that choice. In your perfect little world, they should be punished for what their parents did? The only a VERY FEW of the students at CMS are as you describe them, most are hardworking young people dealing with the situation the best they can. Every time you hear of ONE getting into trouble, there are 50 who went home, did their homework, watched some TV and went to bed at a reasonable hour.
Get your facts straight you disgusting excuse for a human being.
By: enoughisenough on 8/12/09
Farmall, you are a pig. You "escaped" the inner city? Good for you. Try to put the lives of these children into perspective. They didn't choose to be born into poverty. Their parents made that choice. In your perfect little world, they should be punished for what their parents did? There are only a VERY FEW of the students at CMS as you describe them, most are hardworking young people dealing with the situation as best they can. Every time you hear of ONE getting into trouble, there are 50 who went home, did their homework, watched some TV and went to bed at a reasonable hour.
Get your facts straight you disgusting excuse for a human being.
Farmall, you are a pig. You "escaped" the inner city? Good for you. Try to put the lives of these children into perspective. They didn't choose to be born into poverty. Their parents made that choice. In your perfect little world, they should be punished for what their parents did? There are only a VERY FEW of the students at CMS as you describe them, most are hardworking young people dealing with the situation as best they can. Every time you hear of ONE getting into trouble, there are 50 who went home, did their homework, watched some TV and went to bed at a reasonable hour.
Get your facts straight you disgusting excuse for a human being.
By: attagirl on 8/12/09
Farmall, my daughter attended Central Middle School. I am not poor and I don't live in the projects. Let me tell you a story about the "dregs" you speak of:
My daughter's bus route included the January Street area, the actual projects. She was definitely in the minority on her bus. One day she left her purse on the bus. In that purse was $20 and an Ipod. The next day a little girl who lives in the projects gave her her purse back. Told her she found it on the bus and wanted to make sure she got it back.
That's what you're calling "dregs."
Farmall, my daughter attended Central Middle School. I am not poor and I don't live in the projects. Let me tell you a story about the "dregs" you speak of:
My daughter's bus route included the January Street area, the actual projects. She was definitely in the minority on her bus. One day she left her purse on the bus. In that purse was $20 and an Ipod. The next day a little girl who lives in the projects gave her her purse back. Told her she found it on the bus and wanted to make sure she got it back.
That's what you're calling "dregs."
By: Yester on 8/12/09
Well, I am sure for every good story about the students at CMS, there's a bad one to go with it. I do feel children are children and if we do not try our best as a society to help those with uninvolved, non productive parents, then we as a society will just keep on paying for them for years and years, esp. under Obama's leadership. I can understand a teacher's frustration and the idea that by middle school age most minds and attitudes are already set, but maybe a few aren't. We each need to keep volunteering, keep giving, keep trying to help all children.
Well, I am sure for every good story about the students at CMS, there's a bad one to go with it. I do feel children are children and if we do not try our best as a society to help those with uninvolved, non productive parents, then we as a society will just keep on paying for them for years and years, esp. under Obama's leadership. I can understand a teacher's frustration and the idea that by middle school age most minds and attitudes are already set, but maybe a few aren't. We each need to keep volunteering, keep giving, keep trying to help all children.
By: Farmall on 8/12/09
In the last few years instead of trading my car in or selling it. I have just given them away to people in need. Thats four vehicles that are still being used daily by someone who couldn't afford one otherwise. Thats just one of many things I do to help others. Two of those vehicles are transporting needy children every day to school.
In the last few years instead of trading my car in or selling it. I have just given them away to people in need. Thats four vehicles that are still being used daily by someone who couldn't afford one otherwise. Thats just one of many things I do to help others. Two of those vehicles are transporting needy children every day to school.
By: Yester on 8/12/09
Oh, you should look into the bootstraps foundation. It takes kids with hardships, like drug-addicted parents, who are still doing well in school and trying to better themselves, and gives them scholarships. That was the charity we chose this year.
Also, I am still confused by the "we were promised" BS. It must be McFaddenese for "we assumed".
Oh, you should look into the bootstraps foundation. It takes kids with hardships, like drug-addicted parents, who are still doing well in school and trying to better themselves, and gives them scholarships. That was the charity we chose this year.
Also, I am still confused by the "we were promised" BS. It must be McFaddenese for "we assumed".
By: attagirl on 8/12/09
Farmall, making charitable donations doesn't offset or justify your racism. In fact, it makes you appear conceited to brag about it on a public forum.
True charity is in the heart.
Farmall, making charitable donations doesn't offset or justify your racism. In fact, it makes you appear conceited to brag about it on a public forum.
True charity is in the heart.
By: Farmall on 8/12/09
Racism? Since when were we talking about that? And this if the first time I have ever mentioned any specific giving ever. The only thing I was pointing out is the shipping off of the citys problems to the country. I'm a doctor King believer, "character". I don't believe in charity, I believe in helping those who help themselves.
Racism? Since when were we talking about that? And this if the first time I have ever mentioned any specific giving ever. The only thing I was pointing out is the shipping off of the citys problems to the country. I'm a doctor King believer, "character". I don't believe in charity, I believe in helping those who help themselves.
By: lightchick on 8/12/09
I'm not sure who you think is attending CMS currently, but it isn't a bunch of poor ill behaved kids. We are actually zoned Buchanan but we wavered our son to CMS.
I'm not sure who you think is attending CMS currently, but it isn't a bunch of poor ill behaved kids. We are actually zoned Buchanan but we wavered our son to CMS.
By: attagirl on 8/12/09
We've been talking about racism since you referred to the "dregs" from the inner city, and people who don't help themselves and their "violent offspring."
We've been talking about racism since you referred to the "dregs" from the inner city, and people who don't help themselves and their "violent offspring."
By: enoughisenough on 8/12/09
Farmall
Are you just trying to be an a$$ or are you really that much of a racist pig? Central is a COUNTY school already. No one is shipping off anyone. They are simply rezoning children from one COUNTY school to another.
As for your "charity," I'm sure you took a hefty tax write-off on April 15 for your altruistic actions.
Farmall
Are you just trying to be an a$$ or are you really that much of a racist pig? Central is a COUNTY school already. No one is shipping off anyone. They are simply rezoning children from one COUNTY school to another.
As for your "charity," I'm sure you took a hefty tax write-off on April 15 for your altruistic actions.
By: Yester on 8/12/09
Well, I think the idea may be that while no one is officially getting shipped anywhere, a large group of intelligent children with mostly very involved parents are getting sucked out of the other schools and are all being grouped together. I mean, what if we made a seperate school for dumb kids? To me, ideally each school would be more balanced with gifted programs within each school so teachers and students would all be exposed to a more realistic sampling of society. To pull one group out and isolate them completely either for high TCAP's or low, seems like an extreme to try to be avoided.
Well, I think the idea may be that while no one is officially getting shipped anywhere, a large group of intelligent children with mostly very involved parents are getting sucked out of the other schools and are all being grouped together. I mean, what if we made a seperate school for dumb kids? To me, ideally each school would be more balanced with gifted programs within each school so teachers and students would all be exposed to a more realistic sampling of society. To pull one group out and isolate them completely either for high TCAP's or low, seems like an extreme to try to be avoided.
By: Yester on 8/12/09
Farmall, It sounds racist because it's as though you think dregs can only come from the inner city or that the majority come from the inner city. It is racist against inner city folk. Personally, I think dregs can come from any walk of life, but I do agree children are not to be blamed, but encouraged to change any dreg-like behavior and become productive, independant mambers of society.
Farmall, It sounds racist because it's as though you think dregs can only come from the inner city or that the majority come from the inner city. It is racist against inner city folk. Personally, I think dregs can come from any walk of life, but I do agree children are not to be blamed, but encouraged to change any dreg-like behavior and become productive, independant mambers of society.
By: Farmall on 8/13/09
I have never claimed any "charity" on my taxes, what I do, is none of the governments business. I have no idea the racial make up of CMS. I have just heard the horror stories from former students who are now home schooled because of that place. This is not a race thing its a work ethic and character issue. I think some of you need to look in your own mirror.
I have never claimed any "charity" on my taxes, what I do, is none of the governments business. I have no idea the racial make up of CMS. I have just heard the horror stories from former students who are now home schooled because of that place. This is not a race thing its a work ethic and character issue. I think some of you need to look in your own mirror.
By: Farmall on 8/13/09
This is nothing more than the school's version of patient dumping.
This is nothing more than the school's version of patient dumping.
By: Macgyver on 8/13/09
Farmall, theres plenty of people who feel the way you do. Even a member of our city council is happy they broke up the gridlock of failure at McFadden. It was an underperforming school and this was the best fix. You can't help the helpless, you can only help those who want to be helped.
Farmall, theres plenty of people who feel the way you do. Even a member of our city council is happy they broke up the gridlock of failure at McFadden. It was an underperforming school and this was the best fix. You can't help the helpless, you can only help those who want to be helped.
By: enoughisenough on 8/13/09
You must have been talking to someone who's precious little darling didn't make the cut at McFadden. Or to some hood-wearer who didn't want their baby to go to school with the "dregs" as YOU put it, you know, "those people." I know parents of students at Siegel who have told horror stories also, does that all of them true?
Oh well, everyone knows what they say about engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed person, so I'm done with this pitiful, hate-filled pile of excrement.
You must have been talking to someone who's precious little darling didn't make the cut at McFadden. Or to some hood-wearer who didn't want their baby to go to school with the "dregs" as YOU put it, you know, "those people." I know parents of students at Siegel who have told horror stories also, does that all of them true?
Oh well, everyone knows what they say about engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed person, so I'm done with this pitiful, hate-filled pile of excrement.
By: Yester on 8/14/09
Well, if the board keeps making magnet schools for all the smart kids, what do they think they will have left? One huge underperforming school.
Well, if the board keeps making magnet schools for all the smart kids, what do they think they will have left? One huge underperforming school.
By: titanpixydancer on 8/15/09
I do wish they would focus on the rezoning for the two new middle schools. As a parent of a child that would've been attending Central Middle, that is what is on my mind and my concern. I do not want my child bussed to Buchanan if he is going to be considered a 'dreg' simply becuase he lives in the city. I work hard and have raised very intelligent boys aged 14, 13, and 11. We do not live in the 'projects' now, but at one time we did. Does that make them any less than worthy? No it does not! They are in their school bands and they are always complimented on by their teachers for their manners and their kindness. There is good and bad in every town, school, and neighborhood. Instead of calling children names because of what school they're zoned for, perhaps you should focus on becoming a mentor to help? You can't judge a book by it's cover.
I do wish they would focus on the rezoning for the two new middle schools. As a parent of a child that would've been attending Central Middle, that is what is on my mind and my concern. I do not want my child bussed to Buchanan if he is going to be considered a 'dreg' simply becuase he lives in the city. I work hard and have raised very intelligent boys aged 14, 13, and 11. We do not live in the 'projects' now, but at one time we did. Does that make them any less than worthy? No it does not! They are in their school bands and they are always complimented on by their teachers for their manners and their kindness. There is good and bad in every town, school, and neighborhood. Instead of calling children names because of what school they're zoned for, perhaps you should focus on becoming a mentor to help? You can't judge a book by it's cover.
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