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By: Tori0723 on 4/29/07
Who exactly does Mr. Mario Miller think built houses in Tennessee before the illegal aliens arrived? Can anyone show me how the price of houses has dropped in Middle Tennessee since illegals started undercutting native wages? In 1981, my family purchased a newly constructed starter home in Christiana for $38,500. It was a little 1000 sq. ft home, but was well built on 2/3's of an acre of land in a nice neighborhood. Yesterday, one of my children put a contract on a starter home in Christiana. It will have 1500 sq ft on a little tiny lot at a cost of $ 169,900 dollars. I don't think that illegals have really helped to hold the price of housing down much.
And I'd like to know how our native construction workers are surviving on an income of $8.00 per hour.
Who exactly does Mr. Mario Miller think built houses in Tennessee before the illegal aliens arrived? Can anyone show me how the price of houses has dropped in Middle Tennessee since illegals started undercutting native wages? In 1981, my family purchased a newly constructed starter home in Christiana for $38,500. It was a little 1000 sq. ft home, but was well built on 2/3's of an acre of land in a nice neighborhood. Yesterday, one of my children put a contract on a starter home in Christiana. It will have 1500 sq ft on a little tiny lot at a cost of $ 169,900 dollars. I don't think that illegals have really helped to hold the price of housing down much.
And I'd like to know how our native construction workers are surviving on an income of $8.00 per hour.
By: ConservativeReaction on 4/29/07
Have we lost our collective minds? Free this, free that, 'let us teach your kids to spic English'. When are we going to use our tax money to dry their backs when they cross the river?
'Fedral funding pays for 31 teachers' - that's agood start on staffing new school for AMERICANS. Our elected leaders need to look to a new source of funding for our schools - MAKE THE ILLEGALS PAY!
Have we lost our collective minds? Free this, free that, 'let us teach your kids to spic English'. When are we going to use our tax money to dry their backs when they cross the river?
'Fedral funding pays for 31 teachers' - that's agood start on staffing new school for AMERICANS. Our elected leaders need to look to a new source of funding for our schools - MAKE THE ILLEGALS PAY!
By: Geana on 4/29/07
It is not necessarily homebuyers who want to keep housing costs down, it is the contractors who don't want to pay good wages for certified, quality work. I think some prospective homebuyers would rather be employed themselves by the contractors at higher wages so they can purchase what they want at a higher price. Make sense?
It wouldn't be tough to find someone to do it, but it sure is both tough to find and demeaning to ask a fellow American to lower their self-worth to work for cheap wages so contractors can turn a profit for themselves. Americans have families to support at the cost of living right here in Rutherford County. They don't have families living cheaply in Mexico or other countries where the American dollar goes a long way.
Rutherford County Health Clinic doesn't ask whether these people are legal or illegal? Really? That's terrible and maybe it explains why their offices are full of them. What's terrible is legal citizens have to report their employers, income, etc. Can we just come in there and lie to RCHC now and get free services instead of having to pay on a sliding fee scale?
On a personal level, I'm even more resentful and tired of reading everything, everywhere in English, once again in Spanish. I'm still waiting on the duplicate highway signs. Why should Latinos need to learn English? Between the written word and the translators they've got it made. Pretty soon even human translators are going to be replaced by equipment that does voice to voice language translation.
It is not necessarily homebuyers who want to keep housing costs down, it is the contractors who don't want to pay good wages for certified, quality work. I think some prospective homebuyers would rather be employed themselves by the contractors at higher wages so they can purchase what they want at a higher price. Make sense?
It wouldn't be tough to find someone to do it, but it sure is both tough to find and demeaning to ask a fellow American to lower their self-worth to work for cheap wages so contractors can turn a profit for themselves. Americans have families to support at the cost of living right here in Rutherford County. They don't have families living cheaply in Mexico or other countries where the American dollar goes a long way.
Rutherford County Health Clinic doesn't ask whether these people are legal or illegal? Really? That's terrible and maybe it explains why their offices are full of them. What's terrible is legal citizens have to report their employers, income, etc. Can we just come in there and lie to RCHC now and get free services instead of having to pay on a sliding fee scale?
On a personal level, I'm even more resentful and tired of reading everything, everywhere in English, once again in Spanish. I'm still waiting on the duplicate highway signs. Why should Latinos need to learn English? Between the written word and the translators they've got it made. Pretty soon even human translators are going to be replaced by equipment that does voice to voice language translation.
By: Kristyb615 on 4/29/07
Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.
Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.
Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.
Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.
By: DMW37128 on 4/29/07
Kristy, are you sure? Suspicious. Could it not be the first step with the NAFTA Super Highway?
Kristy, are you sure? Suspicious. Could it not be the first step with the NAFTA Super Highway?
By: Tori0723 on 4/29/07
I've been trying to do some research online and haven't had much luck. Is there anyone on here that worked in construction during the early 1980's that remembers what the average wages were?
Also, regarding the SPP. Check the Council On Foreign Relations web site. You'll have to dig though the old minutes to find out what they plan. They are the group behind the SPP and I'm afraid they do have plans to push a North American Union. Look up Robert Pastor and his seminar titled Building A North American Union.
I've been trying to do some research online and haven't had much luck. Is there anyone on here that worked in construction during the early 1980's that remembers what the average wages were?
Also, regarding the SPP. Check the Council On Foreign Relations web site. You'll have to dig though the old minutes to find out what they plan. They are the group behind the SPP and I'm afraid they do have plans to push a North American Union. Look up Robert Pastor and his seminar titled Building A North American Union.
By: Boo on 4/29/07
Guys- If you really want to be sick, If you really want to loose your supper, read the next article down from this one, about the Miracle man Wayne Baskett. This will show you how much we honest,hard working, tax paying citizens mean to our great state lawmakers.
Guys- If you really want to be sick, If you really want to loose your supper, read the next article down from this one, about the Miracle man Wayne Baskett. This will show you how much we honest,hard working, tax paying citizens mean to our great state lawmakers.
By: TimeforJustice on 4/30/07
If these workers are so valuable to Mr. Miller and others that employ them then why can they not sponsor those folks in this country. That means the companies that find these illegals so valuable would be responsible for that person as long as they were in this country. The employer would be responsible for the illegals healthcare, criminal acts, education, etc. The employers would also be responsible for the English education the illegals would need. This benefits the illegals with education and security, the taxpayers who continue to foot the bill for companies who are making major profit would pass that responsiblity onto those that keep them, and those that must provide services to these folks would weed out those that are not productive and be able to communicate with them. Further, if an ilegal refuses to pay taxes the employer is then responsible. If an illegal is not sponsored, then the well dries up and he goes home. If they cannot be productive then their native land is where they need to be. The question is what lawmaker is going to be brave enough to make it so. Is there anyone out there brave enough to make corporate america responsible for any of it? Probably not.
If these workers are so valuable to Mr. Miller and others that employ them then why can they not sponsor those folks in this country. That means the companies that find these illegals so valuable would be responsible for that person as long as they were in this country. The employer would be responsible for the illegals healthcare, criminal acts, education, etc. The employers would also be responsible for the English education the illegals would need. This benefits the illegals with education and security, the taxpayers who continue to foot the bill for companies who are making major profit would pass that responsiblity onto those that keep them, and those that must provide services to these folks would weed out those that are not productive and be able to communicate with them. Further, if an ilegal refuses to pay taxes the employer is then responsible. If an illegal is not sponsored, then the well dries up and he goes home. If they cannot be productive then their native land is where they need to be. The question is what lawmaker is going to be brave enough to make it so. Is there anyone out there brave enough to make corporate america responsible for any of it? Probably not.
By: cwells on 4/30/07
What is it like to be the Rutherford county homebuilder in this article who is too ashamed to give his name to the newspaper? I'm a small business owner, and I can't imagine being so ashamed of my dealings that I wouldn't give my name to the newspaper!
What is it like to be the Rutherford county homebuilder in this article who is too ashamed to give his name to the newspaper? I'm a small business owner, and I can't imagine being so ashamed of my dealings that I wouldn't give my name to the newspaper!
By: Brink on 4/30/07
My granddaughter attends high school in SW Florida and in each class, they are taught first in English, then everything repeated in Spanish. Ditto for PTA meetings and they last 4 - 5 hours long.
All Wal-Mart signs are in English and Spanish. Announcements made over the intercom are in Spanish, then English..sometimes. Call City Hall and you may get a non-English-speaking employee who will tell you there is no one there who speaks English.
Will the Hispanics learn English? Not at this rate.
My granddaughter attends high school in SW Florida and in each class, they are taught first in English, then everything repeated in Spanish. Ditto for PTA meetings and they last 4 - 5 hours long.
All Wal-Mart signs are in English and Spanish. Announcements made over the intercom are in Spanish, then English..sometimes. Call City Hall and you may get a non-English-speaking employee who will tell you there is no one there who speaks English.
Will the Hispanics learn English? Not at this rate.
By: elguapo on 5/1/07
I am a general contractor that has used Mario Miller for several projects. His crews are hard working and did a great job. The hispanic workers that come here are not taking jobs, they are filling a void and we should be grateful for this. Try asking your own teenagers or young adults to lay brick or push a shovel all day at any wage. It ain't gonna happen. You can't even get them to take out the trash. Yes, houses were built in the past without the benefit of immigrant labor, but they could not be done today on any large scale. The difference is in our home grown work force which either feels that everyone is entitled to a college degree and a cushy white collar job or they are just plain too lazy to get their hands dirty.
I am a general contractor that has used Mario Miller for several projects. His crews are hard working and did a great job. The hispanic workers that come here are not taking jobs, they are filling a void and we should be grateful for this. Try asking your own teenagers or young adults to lay brick or push a shovel all day at any wage. It ain't gonna happen. You can't even get them to take out the trash. Yes, houses were built in the past without the benefit of immigrant labor, but they could not be done today on any large scale. The difference is in our home grown work force which either feels that everyone is entitled to a college degree and a cushy white collar job or they are just plain too lazy to get their hands dirty.
By: gotitans2007 on 5/1/07
I understand the sensitivity on this subject, but as a full blooded American I have to say this...I have a problem with the rate at which the Hispanics are infiltrating the United States and even closer; the Boro. We have no control over it whatsoever. It is like a virus that we have no meds for...When will the "open door" close? There is no balance of the American dream anymore. Middle class American families have both parents working from sun up to sun down barely getting by while Hispanics work tax free with the mother at home raising 3 or 4 babies...they are in our neighborhoods, bringing down the values because they have 2 or 3 different families living in a "single family home." Have you tried to sell a home with Hispanics living next door these days with 5 cars parked in the drive?
As far as contractors go...they pay Hispanics cash which is never reported either way. It keeps them from paying their worker's comp and contractors liability insurance which is costly to the contractor. More money in both pockets.
Frankly, if they are gonna be here...then adhere to our ways. Learn our language and laws. If I order a hamburger at McDonalds, please be able to communicate with me. If you can't speak english, learn it! I'm not learning Spanish on American soil...I will if I move to Mexico!
I understand the sensitivity on this subject, but as a full blooded American I have to say this...I have a problem with the rate at which the Hispanics are infiltrating the United States and even closer; the Boro. We have no control over it whatsoever. It is like a virus that we have no meds for...When will the "open door" close? There is no balance of the American dream anymore. Middle class American families have both parents working from sun up to sun down barely getting by while Hispanics work tax free with the mother at home raising 3 or 4 babies...they are in our neighborhoods, bringing down the values because they have 2 or 3 different families living in a "single family home." Have you tried to sell a home with Hispanics living next door these days with 5 cars parked in the drive?
As far as contractors go...they pay Hispanics cash which is never reported either way. It keeps them from paying their worker's comp and contractors liability insurance which is costly to the contractor. More money in both pockets.
Frankly, if they are gonna be here...then adhere to our ways. Learn our language and laws. If I order a hamburger at McDonalds, please be able to communicate with me. If you can't speak english, learn it! I'm not learning Spanish on American soil...I will if I move to Mexico!
By: Tori0723 on 5/1/07
Murfreesboro Post. Please find out how things are going in the effort to enroll our sherrif's dept. in the I.C.E. program and let the public know.
Also, for those that think that illegal aliens and their children can't acess the welfare services in this country, please try the following experiment. Go to www.govbenefits.gov and sign up as an illegal alien with "U.S. citizen" children. I did and found out that an alien with 4 children and an income of $8.00 per hour qualifies for $535.00 per month in food stamps alone.
Murfreesboro Post. Please find out how things are going in the effort to enroll our sherrif's dept. in the I.C.E. program and let the public know.
Also, for those that think that illegal aliens and their children can't acess the welfare services in this country, please try the following experiment. Go to www.govbenefits.gov and sign up as an illegal alien with "U.S. citizen" children. I did and found out that an alien with 4 children and an income of $8.00 per hour qualifies for $535.00 per month in food stamps alone.
By: rexgraphics on 7/17/10
I think mixing Illegal and Hispanic (as this article does) is wrong and unwarranted. Illegals come from everywhere. There is no reason to target any ethnic group.
People who emmigrate to the United States are among the greatest citizens. Because they want to be here as appose to some accident of birth.
The group to target is the 'mario miller's of the world. They make the same arguments that were made before the Civil War.
That being, 'we can't get along without cheap labor'. That is why America made one of its first and biggest mistakes. That being Slavery. We imported the problem. If we hadn't imported cheap/free labor in the first place our crime rate would be that of the Netherlands, or Luxemborg.
The answer is to de-magnetize America. If Ole Mario gets to pay a fine of $29,999 or so for hiring cheap labor he'll quit.
And contrary to Ole' Mario food Will still get to the shelves, dogs will still chase cats, and the world will continue. It will cost what it should because the market is the market. I'm not sure why buying a house should be cheap when it's not cheap to keep a house.
The only difference is Mario's bottom line will be honest. I'm sure he's charging like every single employee is a card carrying-tax paying-citizen. I wonder if he's paying them the difference?
I think mixing Illegal and Hispanic (as this article does) is wrong and unwarranted. Illegals come from everywhere. There is no reason to target any ethnic group.
People who emmigrate to the United States are among the greatest citizens. Because they want to be here as appose to some accident of birth.
The group to target is the 'mario miller's of the world. They make the same arguments that were made before the Civil War.
That being, 'we can't get along without cheap labor'. That is why America made one of its first and biggest mistakes. That being Slavery. We imported the problem. If we hadn't imported cheap/free labor in the first place our crime rate would be that of the Netherlands, or Luxemborg.
The answer is to de-magnetize America. If Ole Mario gets to pay a fine of $29,999 or so for hiring cheap labor he'll quit.
And contrary to Ole' Mario food Will still get to the shelves, dogs will still chase cats, and the world will continue. It will cost what it should because the market is the market. I'm not sure why buying a house should be cheap when it's not cheap to keep a house.
The only difference is Mario's bottom line will be honest. I'm sure he's charging like every single employee is a card carrying-tax paying-citizen. I wonder if he's paying them the difference?
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