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By: attagirl on 4/6/09
How can the county tell them not to park on the square? I could understand not letting them leave to move their car, even on breaks, but as far as not parking there, it's a free country and if they want to pay the $2 ticket to park there, then so be it.
How can the county tell them not to park on the square? I could understand not letting them leave to move their car, even on breaks, but as far as not parking there, it's a free country and if they want to pay the $2 ticket to park there, then so be it.
By: perseveretolive on 4/6/09
Sorry, but if county employees want to park on the square as attagirl says and pay said $2 or more then I agree. The county employees spend alot of cash on the square, I guess they can park somewhere else and spend there money somewhere else off the square.
Sorry, but if county employees want to park on the square as attagirl says and pay said $2 or more then I agree. The county employees spend alot of cash on the square, I guess they can park somewhere else and spend there money somewhere else off the square.
By: barrettbear on 4/6/09
I agree with both. On a second note, these employees are there for eight-ten hours. For citizens that have to go on the square for business: court, cleaners, etc., imagine how frustrating that could be.
I would not want to have to park blocks away for a fifteen minute-one hour visit because there is no place close to park.
To me, that deters patrons from coming and can result in loss revenue for businesses.
So not really, can not see how employees parking on the square is a great idea.
I agree with both. On a second note, these employees are there for eight-ten hours. For citizens that have to go on the square for business: court, cleaners, etc., imagine how frustrating that could be.
I would not want to have to park blocks away for a fifteen minute-one hour visit because there is no place close to park.
To me, that deters patrons from coming and can result in loss revenue for businesses.
So not really, can not see how employees parking on the square is a great idea.
By: JustAguy on 4/6/09
As a owner of a small business that use to be on the located on the square for many years. No parking due to the courts is one of the reason we moved from the square. We had to to stay in buisness. Thats why the square looks nothing like it did even 10 years ago.
As a owner of a small business that use to be on the located on the square for many years. No parking due to the courts is one of the reason we moved from the square. We had to to stay in buisness. Thats why the square looks nothing like it did even 10 years ago.
By: attagirl on 4/6/09
The only time parking is a real problem is betwen 8:30 and 10:00 a.m. Otherwise, there's plenty.
The only time parking is a real problem is betwen 8:30 and 10:00 a.m. Otherwise, there's plenty.
By: devolver on 4/7/09
Employees of places like Wal-Mart are required to park in the back of the parking lot, so they don't get all of the "good" spaces close to the store. Lots of companies do this, makes sense that the county would do the same.
And for them (county employees) having to move their cars every 2 hours... that's just retarded. That could take anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes, depending on availability to spaces... thats OUR tax dollars being wasted so these jokers don't have to walk a block from the city PARKING GARAGE (and there's a lot across from the police station thats public parking as well)
And why CAN'T they tell their employees where to park? Private companies can do this...
Employees of places like Wal-Mart are required to park in the back of the parking lot, so they don't get all of the "good" spaces close to the store. Lots of companies do this, makes sense that the county would do the same.
And for them (county employees) having to move their cars every 2 hours... that's just retarded. That could take anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes, depending on availability to spaces... thats OUR tax dollars being wasted so these jokers don't have to walk a block from the city PARKING GARAGE (and there's a lot across from the police station thats public parking as well)
And why CAN'T they tell their employees where to park? Private companies can do this...
By: hat4rack on 4/7/09
The steering committee or council or whoever needs to decide how those parking spaces are going to be used. If it's decided they need to be available for others than the county employees, then so be it -- new rule: county employees must park at the public parking garage. If a county employee parks there after told not, begin disciplinary procedures. Too many people need jobs who would be fine with walking a 2 or 3 blocks to get to and from their office door.
The steering committee or council or whoever needs to decide how those parking spaces are going to be used. If it's decided they need to be available for others than the county employees, then so be it -- new rule: county employees must park at the public parking garage. If a county employee parks there after told not, begin disciplinary procedures. Too many people need jobs who would be fine with walking a 2 or 3 blocks to get to and from their office door.
By: attagirl on 4/7/09
Devolver, they can't tell them where to park because it's PUBLIC PROPERTY. The companies you speak of own their own parking lots and therefore have a right to say who parks where.
Devolver, they can't tell them where to park because it's PUBLIC PROPERTY. The companies you speak of own their own parking lots and therefore have a right to say who parks where.
By: attagirl on 4/7/09
Also, the number of people who actually work in the courthouse is not as great as the number of other employees who work on the square. The county can't tell the employees of the law offices and stores where they can park.
Also, the number of people who actually work in the courthouse is not as great as the number of other employees who work on the square. The county can't tell the employees of the law offices and stores where they can park.
By: vdanr on 4/7/09
I agree that they cannot tell them not to park on the square because it is public property. However, I don't think they should be allowed to move their vehicles every 2 hours to avoid getting a $2 ticket!!!
If they refuse to park somewhere else, and they get a certain number of tickets, then the city/county can boot their tire and then tow it. Maybe that will help. Remember, this is just a suggestion.
I agree that they cannot tell them not to park on the square because it is public property. However, I don't think they should be allowed to move their vehicles every 2 hours to avoid getting a $2 ticket!!!
If they refuse to park somewhere else, and they get a certain number of tickets, then the city/county can boot their tire and then tow it. Maybe that will help. Remember, this is just a suggestion.
By: Alma228 on 4/7/09
Move the court hearings. It is frustrating to try to visit a business and pretend to be a shark in locating a parking space.
Who hasn't driven round and round the square then gave up. Business owners around the square try creative ways to keep retail business going there, why do people seem to love the new gateway shopping area, it's set-up to resemble - a town square - with parking at the front door. Town squares have a charm to them, the courthouse is important, but so is commerce. I admire those businesses who must have a love of the square and want it to succeed. Perhaps a golf cart trolley from the parking garage is the answer,or Rover taking an extra path around the square at 7:45am and 5:10pm.
Move the court hearings. It is frustrating to try to visit a business and pretend to be a shark in locating a parking space.
Who hasn't driven round and round the square then gave up. Business owners around the square try creative ways to keep retail business going there, why do people seem to love the new gateway shopping area, it's set-up to resemble - a town square - with parking at the front door. Town squares have a charm to them, the courthouse is important, but so is commerce. I admire those businesses who must have a love of the square and want it to succeed. Perhaps a golf cart trolley from the parking garage is the answer,or Rover taking an extra path around the square at 7:45am and 5:10pm.
By: Geowizard on 4/7/09
Sorry, but it is pure laziness. Attagirl, you can justify it however you want, but I have seen the suffle every time county employees have to avoid a ticket. The time taken is a waste, and it is time not used doing the job for which they are paid. Making excuses is just a way of saying that you will do what you want, regardless of if it is right or not. We complain about the economy and losing jobs overseas, but this is a prime example of what is wrong with the American workforce now. If you don't like it, find a job with parking closer. Other than that, it is just childish to get mad because you can't park at the door. If employers of the law offices and retail don't want to control employee parking, then they will lose customers, but it is a disservice of county employees to have such little respect.
Sorry, but it is pure laziness. Attagirl, you can justify it however you want, but I have seen the suffle every time county employees have to avoid a ticket. The time taken is a waste, and it is time not used doing the job for which they are paid. Making excuses is just a way of saying that you will do what you want, regardless of if it is right or not. We complain about the economy and losing jobs overseas, but this is a prime example of what is wrong with the American workforce now. If you don't like it, find a job with parking closer. Other than that, it is just childish to get mad because you can't park at the door. If employers of the law offices and retail don't want to control employee parking, then they will lose customers, but it is a disservice of county employees to have such little respect.
By: perseveretolive on 4/7/09
Move the Courthouse off the square, that will solve the problem, stop putting the blame on employees. As said earlier this is due to court in session. Movge the Courthouse. It is only a few employees that go out during a smoke break anyway.
Move the Courthouse off the square, that will solve the problem, stop putting the blame on employees. As said earlier this is due to court in session. Movge the Courthouse. It is only a few employees that go out during a smoke break anyway.
By: devolver on 4/7/09
attagirl, I realize that since its public property the county can't dictate who gets to park in the spaces, but what I mean is I don't understand how "by law" the county can't dictate where its employees park. It seems to me that they could make it a "policy" as a condition of employment with the county to NOT park on the square. Does that make any sense?
attagirl, I realize that since its public property the county can't dictate who gets to park in the spaces, but what I mean is I don't understand how "by law" the county can't dictate where its employees park. It seems to me that they could make it a "policy" as a condition of employment with the county to NOT park on the square. Does that make any sense?
By: ItsGood on 4/7/09
What gets me is the wife of Bud Harmon with her handicap parking tag taking up a spot all day, yet she can walk the square numerous times smoking. That's messed up.
What gets me is the wife of Bud Harmon with her handicap parking tag taking up a spot all day, yet she can walk the square numerous times smoking. That's messed up.
By: devolver on 4/7/09
ItsGood: unfortunately, that seems to be a commonality with most "handicapped" drivers.
ItsGood: unfortunately, that seems to be a commonality with most "handicapped" drivers.
By: attagirl on 4/7/09
Geo, I'm with you on the "moving the car" thing. I don't employees should be allowed to do it on company time. But I do believe they're free to park there anytime they're willing to pay the ticket.
By the way, I use the courthouse all the time for my job and I don't mind paying $2 to park. When I worked in Nashville, I paid $10 per day to park. I just wish they'd put in meters.
Geo, I'm with you on the "moving the car" thing. I don't employees should be allowed to do it on company time. But I do believe they're free to park there anytime they're willing to pay the ticket.
By the way, I use the courthouse all the time for my job and I don't mind paying $2 to park. When I worked in Nashville, I paid $10 per day to park. I just wish they'd put in meters.
By: devolver on 4/7/09
Maybe the city needs to up the fine from $2 to $10. It could mean some extra revenue...
Or meters. But the cost of installing the meters won't be paid for by the revenue from the meters for A LONG TIME. So, it might not even be worth it. Plus, parking meters are a bit of an eye sore.
Maybe the city needs to up the fine from $2 to $10. It could mean some extra revenue...
Or meters. But the cost of installing the meters won't be paid for by the revenue from the meters for A LONG TIME. So, it might not even be worth it. Plus, parking meters are a bit of an eye sore.
By: Boro70 on 4/7/09
The first ticket is $2.00. Next ticket at the same location--$5.00. Stay for the next pass--$25.00. Not often that they make more than 4 passes in one day, but I'm sure the fourth ticket (5th pass) is no less expenive. Personally, $37.50 a day (three tickets) to park is a bit steep. The one block (O.K., maybe two block!) walk from the city hall parking lot is something most of us can use. There is also the added benefit of not having your car cooked in the sun all day to ruin the seats and paint.
The first ticket is $2.00. Next ticket at the same location--$5.00. Stay for the next pass--$25.00. Not often that they make more than 4 passes in one day, but I'm sure the fourth ticket (5th pass) is no less expenive. Personally, $37.50 a day (three tickets) to park is a bit steep. The one block (O.K., maybe two block!) walk from the city hall parking lot is something most of us can use. There is also the added benefit of not having your car cooked in the sun all day to ruin the seats and paint.
By: attagirl on 4/7/09
I've parked from sun-up to sundown and never received more than two tickets (one for $2 and one for $5).
I believe meters would generate a profit in no time.
I've parked from sun-up to sundown and never received more than two tickets (one for $2 and one for $5).
I believe meters would generate a profit in no time.
By: devolver on 4/8/09
I'd prefer there not be parking meters. As I said in a previous post, aside from the expenses involved installing and maintaining them, they're ugly. A LOT of money has been put into the 'beautification' of the public square, it would be a shame to see it get junked up with parking meters. I'd just like to see people stop being so selfish with parking spots ON THEIR OWN, without ticketing and metered parking. But, that's expecting a bit too much from PEOPLE.
I'd prefer there not be parking meters. As I said in a previous post, aside from the expenses involved installing and maintaining them, they're ugly. A LOT of money has been put into the 'beautification' of the public square, it would be a shame to see it get junked up with parking meters. I'd just like to see people stop being so selfish with parking spots ON THEIR OWN, without ticketing and metered parking. But, that's expecting a bit too much from PEOPLE.
By: TheFiveO on 4/8/09
I cannot believe that our county commissioners are wasting time worrying about this when the budget is collapsing, and we are now facing an $11million lawsuit from more of their stupidity. How are we going to pay for it all. How are we going to service our growing debt, Commissioners?
I note that the one Commissioner quoted here is Ronald Williams, the very one who turned on his constituents and supported the theme park.
Question for Williams: Do you ever do anything worthwhile for taxpayers, or do you just worry about stupid stuff like parking on the square?
I cannot believe that our county commissioners are wasting time worrying about this when the budget is collapsing, and we are now facing an $11million lawsuit from more of their stupidity. How are we going to pay for it all. How are we going to service our growing debt, Commissioners?
I note that the one Commissioner quoted here is Ronald Williams, the very one who turned on his constituents and supported the theme park.
Question for Williams: Do you ever do anything worthwhile for taxpayers, or do you just worry about stupid stuff like parking on the square?
By: devolver on 4/8/09
TheFiveO: "After complaints from local business owners and a county commissioner..." emphasis on "local business owners"... Commissioner Ronald Williams represents these local business owners, so he should raise a stink about the parking situation since his constituents aren't happy with it. Imagine if these guys are pulling a 40 hours work week (which, I'd guess they're probably doing more like 60-70 hr/wk), they'd certainly have LOTS of time to cover more than just the TWO issues you've mentioned. Personally, I'm happy to see that the issue of limited parking is being given such attention. It's important that the businesses on the square THRIVE, as they generate revenue for the city/county/state via sales tax and property tax, not to mention the character they bring to our city. So, "stupid stuff"? Hardly.
TheFiveO: "After complaints from local business owners and a county commissioner..." emphasis on "local business owners"... Commissioner Ronald Williams represents these local business owners, so he should raise a stink about the parking situation since his constituents aren't happy with it. Imagine if these guys are pulling a 40 hours work week (which, I'd guess they're probably doing more like 60-70 hr/wk), they'd certainly have LOTS of time to cover more than just the TWO issues you've mentioned. Personally, I'm happy to see that the issue of limited parking is being given such attention. It's important that the businesses on the square THRIVE, as they generate revenue for the city/county/state via sales tax and property tax, not to mention the character they bring to our city. So, "stupid stuff"? Hardly.
By: mikewest on 4/8/09
Years ago, it was suggested that the Square be limited to pedestrian traffic only and that parking be relocated nearby.
Years ago, it was suggested that the Square be limited to pedestrian traffic only and that parking be relocated nearby.
By: Who_Cares on 4/8/09
I have a question for Mr. Williams. Would he want his wife,mother or daughter walking to Spring/Lokey or the Dark parking garage(which has plenty of abandoned vehicles) by themselves? Did he walk from those places to FLUFFO? Why not build the Courthouse by the Jail. That would solve most of the issues. Then,the same people crying over parking would be crying over Courthouse employees not spending money at there Stores or Eateries...
I have a question for Mr. Williams. Would he want his wife,mother or daughter walking to Spring/Lokey or the Dark parking garage(which has plenty of abandoned vehicles) by themselves? Did he walk from those places to FLUFFO? Why not build the Courthouse by the Jail. That would solve most of the issues. Then,the same people crying over parking would be crying over Courthouse employees not spending money at there Stores or Eateries...
By: devolver on 4/8/09
Who_cares: I don't understand. Is his wife, mother and daughter County employees? Why would a county employee need to walk to Fluffo if they should be at work? Are those big scary abandoned cars gonna come out at night and get ya?
Who_cares: I don't understand. Is his wife, mother and daughter County employees? Why would a county employee need to walk to Fluffo if they should be at work? Are those big scary abandoned cars gonna come out at night and get ya?
By: TheFiveO on 4/8/09
Devolver:
Sorry...it's stupid stuff in a county that is going broke. When your taxes skyrocket to meet county debt service, you'll think of me.
Til then...
Devolver:
Sorry...it's stupid stuff in a county that is going broke. When your taxes skyrocket to meet county debt service, you'll think of me.
Til then...
By: Who_Cares on 4/9/09
Mr. Williams use to own the FLUFFO store. With crime up I do not want her walking to her car in either of those locations (which she does).
Mr. Williams use to own the FLUFFO store. With crime up I do not want her walking to her car in either of those locations (which she does).
By: devolver on 4/9/09
Who_cares: I'm wondering if you even read my post...to quote it, "...It's important that the businesses on the square THRIVE, as they generate revenue for the city/county/state via sales tax and property tax..." And having more parking available to potential patrons of these business certainly wouldn't HURT the local businesses... As far as it being, "...stupid stuff in a county that is going broke...", I don't see how requiring County employees (who would otherwise park on the square) to park in the city parking garage would have any sort of fiscal impact, positive or negative, on the county.
Who_cares: I'm wondering if you even read my post...to quote it, "...It's important that the businesses on the square THRIVE, as they generate revenue for the city/county/state via sales tax and property tax..." And having more parking available to potential patrons of these business certainly wouldn't HURT the local businesses... As far as it being, "...stupid stuff in a county that is going broke...", I don't see how requiring County employees (who would otherwise park on the square) to park in the city parking garage would have any sort of fiscal impact, positive or negative, on the county.
By: perseveretolive on 4/9/09
Again, this has to do with the fact that when COURT is in session there are hundreds of cases a day so therefore; there are hundreds of cars from people going to COURT, there are a small number of county employees that park on the square and for many reasons only known to them, so why not move the Courthouse off the square, stop just picking on county employees, it is a larger issue than that.
Now, where I might have a small issue is if they (the employees) run outside to move their cars several times a day--unless--of course they are on a break of which they are allowed to have as is anyone else--just a thought here, not everybody smokes on their break, so what really is the real issue here..it is the location of the Courthouse and parking for the public going to COURT. I for would not wish to park in a dark parking garage, it scares me enough when I have to go to Nasville and park in one because I have no choice, as for the city garage it is my understanding that there a no camera's in the parking garage to watch for trouble and therefore no one watching to respond in case of an assault, etc.
Again, this has to do with the fact that when COURT is in session there are hundreds of cases a day so therefore; there are hundreds of cars from people going to COURT, there are a small number of county employees that park on the square and for many reasons only known to them, so why not move the Courthouse off the square, stop just picking on county employees, it is a larger issue than that.
Now, where I might have a small issue is if they (the employees) run outside to move their cars several times a day--unless--of course they are on a break of which they are allowed to have as is anyone else--just a thought here, not everybody smokes on their break, so what really is the real issue here..it is the location of the Courthouse and parking for the public going to COURT. I for would not wish to park in a dark parking garage, it scares me enough when I have to go to Nasville and park in one because I have no choice, as for the city garage it is my understanding that there a no camera's in the parking garage to watch for trouble and therefore no one watching to respond in case of an assault, etc.
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