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By: rndnrnd on 8/31/07
WHAT??? There is no mention of the intersection of Cason Lane and Hwy.96. Are you kidding me??? That intersection alone will fund a deserved pay raise for all law enforcement officers.
WHAT??? There is no mention of the intersection of Cason Lane and Hwy.96. Are you kidding me??? That intersection alone will fund a deserved pay raise for all law enforcement officers.
By: Admiral on 8/31/07
Where I see people run them the worst is Church St. turning left onto Broad Street, US231 turning left onto I-24. Cason Lane and Hwy 96 and US231 and Warrior Drive. This town has a NASCAR mentality. Just one accident and with all the road construction, it's a nightmare to drive in. Murfreesboro's traffic is worse than a major city.
Where I see people run them the worst is Church St. turning left onto Broad Street, US231 turning left onto I-24. Cason Lane and Hwy 96 and US231 and Warrior Drive. This town has a NASCAR mentality. Just one accident and with all the road construction, it's a nightmare to drive in. Murfreesboro's traffic is worse than a major city.
By: diddlede on 8/31/07
I think this is a good idea, but the city needs to watch the law suit that has been filed (I think in Gallatin) to see how this turns out before they invest in the cameras and then have to turn around and take them down should the lawyer that has filed the suit win his case in court.
I think this is a good idea, but the city needs to watch the law suit that has been filed (I think in Gallatin) to see how this turns out before they invest in the cameras and then have to turn around and take them down should the lawyer that has filed the suit win his case in court.
By: Nrider on 8/31/07
30 thousand per month, Thats a lot of tickets. how many are going to have to be false to make this work.
30 thousand per month, Thats a lot of tickets. how many are going to have to be false to make this work.
By: MyVoice on 8/31/07
Bad idea and waste of money. Can't prove who is driving the car. That's what police officers are for. 30,000 a month will buy more police if thats what we need. Then what happens when nobody runs the lights and you make no money. Yes we save a few lives maybe. Teach these people in TN to drive and it would be better. My bet is someone at the top is getting fat off this one.
Bad idea and waste of money. Can't prove who is driving the car. That's what police officers are for. 30,000 a month will buy more police if thats what we need. Then what happens when nobody runs the lights and you make no money. Yes we save a few lives maybe. Teach these people in TN to drive and it would be better. My bet is someone at the top is getting fat off this one.
By: UnionLady1055 on 8/31/07
I think it is 200 tickets per day JUST to pay for the service. I am changing my routes
I think it is 200 tickets per day JUST to pay for the service. I am changing my routes
By: mckni1941 on 8/31/07
Where will the offender's due process under the law take place? If he contests the ticket can he appear before a judge to argue his case? Who will appear as the accuser? I don’t think this is a good idea and it seems to me that the city could find better uses for $30,000 a month. I believe we need to ask our city council to reconsider this idea.
Where will the offender's due process under the law take place? If he contests the ticket can he appear before a judge to argue his case? Who will appear as the accuser? I don’t think this is a good idea and it seems to me that the city could find better uses for $30,000 a month. I believe we need to ask our city council to reconsider this idea.
By: Curious on 8/31/07
Check my math:
$30,000/month cost divided by 6 intersections = $5000 av. fines/intersection a month to pay for the service.
$5000/ intersection divided by $50 a ticket = 100 violations/month or 3.33 per day/intersection.
Catch the rerun of the City Council meeting on Cable Channel 3:
It's a violation only if the driver is behind the "stop bar" (that wide white line you're supposed to stop behind at an intersection) when the light turns red and then proceeds into the intersection anyway.
Knoxville's cameras have reduced side impact crashes by 45%.
Red light cameras monitor all lanes of traffic (up to 12 at an intersection). How many traffic cops would it take to monitor that many lanes and how much more would traffic be slowed maneuvering around the police car and violating car?
Drive safely.
Check my math:
$30,000/month cost divided by 6 intersections = $5000 av. fines/intersection a month to pay for the service.
$5000/ intersection divided by $50 a ticket = 100 violations/month or 3.33 per day/intersection.
Catch the rerun of the City Council meeting on Cable Channel 3:
It's a violation only if the driver is behind the "stop bar" (that wide white line you're supposed to stop behind at an intersection) when the light turns red and then proceeds into the intersection anyway.
Knoxville's cameras have reduced side impact crashes by 45%.
Red light cameras monitor all lanes of traffic (up to 12 at an intersection). How many traffic cops would it take to monitor that many lanes and how much more would traffic be slowed maneuvering around the police car and violating car?
Drive safely.
By: spanky on 9/1/07
They need to raise the ticket's to $150.00 Each. The $50.00 fine won't pay for the paper the ticket is written on.
Raising the cost of the ticket, plus the camera's might - I say might get someone's attention. I mean comeon, 50 bucks won't
buy a decent fifth of whiskey to drink on the way home from work... rof
They need to raise the ticket's to $150.00 Each. The $50.00 fine won't pay for the paper the ticket is written on.
Raising the cost of the ticket, plus the camera's might - I say might get someone's attention. I mean comeon, 50 bucks won't
buy a decent fifth of whiskey to drink on the way home from work... rof
By: DMW37128 on 9/1/07
It's a violation only if the driver is behind the "stop bar" (that wide white line you're supposed to stop behind at an intersection) when the light turns red and then proceeds into the intersection anyway.
Well gosh, how many Murfreesboro drivers stop behind that line - about 20%. Try turning a corner and there across the line is a bumper.
The stop line is the large WHITE LINE, not the start of the intersection.
It's a violation only if the driver is behind the "stop bar" (that wide white line you're supposed to stop behind at an intersection) when the light turns red and then proceeds into the intersection anyway.
Well gosh, how many Murfreesboro drivers stop behind that line - about 20%. Try turning a corner and there across the line is a bumper.
The stop line is the large WHITE LINE, not the start of the intersection.
By: snook on 9/1/07
Since our local cops can't seem to see when a car runs a red light right in fornt of them
(I have seen this happen numerous times)I think the cameras are a good idea.
Since our local cops can't seem to see when a car runs a red light right in fornt of them
(I have seen this happen numerous times)I think the cameras are a good idea.
By: jmrgn46 on 9/2/07
Why not put the camara's up in the high crime area's? Everything in the police report's is after the fact. We have alot of assults and break in's rapes. Your not safe anywhere.
Why not put the camara's up in the high crime area's? Everything in the police report's is after the fact. We have alot of assults and break in's rapes. Your not safe anywhere.
By: Geana on 9/2/07
Just traffic lights? Probably more accidents are caused by those who ignore stop signs or those who hit head on trying get into the middle inside turn lanes from both directions. These lanes should be eliminated in lieu of more traffic lights with left turn signals. Does anyone else encounter sitting at and having to wait an eternity for the next left turn signal, because... you can't see or tell for certain that more cars are approaching behind the high SUV's or trucks waiting opposite you for their left turn signal?
I think traffic planners should sit at every side road and simply look left and right. If they can't see vehicles approaching for at least a 1/2 mile straight in either direction, a traffic light is necessary. Another doozy that's easy to figure out... speed limits. Average drivers are already going to push 5-10 miles above the posted limits. If a road is better served with 40 mile limits... don't post 40 mph limits, post 30. That will ascertain most drivers won't risk going past 40.
The cameras are a good idea. The fine may be minimal, but the long term price the drivers will later pay in increased insurance rates makes even $0 fines worth that penalty.
Just traffic lights? Probably more accidents are caused by those who ignore stop signs or those who hit head on trying get into the middle inside turn lanes from both directions. These lanes should be eliminated in lieu of more traffic lights with left turn signals. Does anyone else encounter sitting at and having to wait an eternity for the next left turn signal, because... you can't see or tell for certain that more cars are approaching behind the high SUV's or trucks waiting opposite you for their left turn signal?
I think traffic planners should sit at every side road and simply look left and right. If they can't see vehicles approaching for at least a 1/2 mile straight in either direction, a traffic light is necessary. Another doozy that's easy to figure out... speed limits. Average drivers are already going to push 5-10 miles above the posted limits. If a road is better served with 40 mile limits... don't post 40 mph limits, post 30. That will ascertain most drivers won't risk going past 40.
The cameras are a good idea. The fine may be minimal, but the long term price the drivers will later pay in increased insurance rates makes even $0 fines worth that penalty.
By: DMW37128 on 9/2/07
Why not camera's in each house to make sure no more "Murfreesboro Madam" type businesses are operating here. That is a violation as well.
Why not camera's in each house to make sure no more "Murfreesboro Madam" type businesses are operating here. That is a violation as well.
By: DMW37128 on 9/3/07
Why not larger signs so people do not have to slow down to search for business, thus eliminating rear end collisions and traffic jams?
Why not larger signs so people do not have to slow down to search for business, thus eliminating rear end collisions and traffic jams?
By: Hayburner on 9/4/07
Cameras will stop runners who do it on purpose, but will not stop inadvertent/accidental running, which happens because an intersection is confusing, or because there are distractions in the vehicle or outside on the road. And guess which of these two types runs the light longer, and is more likely to cause an accident?
If you want to stop the accidents, you have to do "engineering countermeasures." In other words, better pavement markings, bigger diameter lamps on the signal, remove roadside distractions.
All that cameras do is give the appearance of doing something - and raise the number of rear-enders by 60%. For links to some studies, go to http://www.highwayrobbery.net/redlightcamsLinksFAQ6Details.html
Cameras will stop runners who do it on purpose, but will not stop inadvertent/accidental running, which happens because an intersection is confusing, or because there are distractions in the vehicle or outside on the road. And guess which of these two types runs the light longer, and is more likely to cause an accident?
If you want to stop the accidents, you have to do "engineering countermeasures." In other words, better pavement markings, bigger diameter lamps on the signal, remove roadside distractions.
All that cameras do is give the appearance of doing something - and raise the number of rear-enders by 60%. For links to some studies, go to http://www.highwayrobbery.net/redlightcamsLinksFAQ6Details.html
By: magnum on 9/4/07
Sounds like a "fundraiser" to me! Actually using officers to make real traffic stops would give them a chance to write other offenses also. The increased presence of uniformed officers hopefuly will stop runners from running the light! The camera method just charges a "fee" of $50 to run the light, some would take their chances and pay if caught. Rear end collisions at these intersections will also go up. Oh well, just part of the City "creating a better quality of life" for us all!!
Sounds like a "fundraiser" to me! Actually using officers to make real traffic stops would give them a chance to write other offenses also. The increased presence of uniformed officers hopefuly will stop runners from running the light! The camera method just charges a "fee" of $50 to run the light, some would take their chances and pay if caught. Rear end collisions at these intersections will also go up. Oh well, just part of the City "creating a better quality of life" for us all!!
By: diddlede on 9/5/07
I, too, believe the rear end collisions will go up. I have pictured myself going through a light as it turns yellow. I still can't figure out how I am going to stop that quick and not have someone rear end me. My husband stills says "yellow is caution" and "red means stop". So I guess "yellow means stop" now. Boy, things do change in a hurry. Now we have to teach our children that "yellow means STOP".
I, too, believe the rear end collisions will go up. I have pictured myself going through a light as it turns yellow. I still can't figure out how I am going to stop that quick and not have someone rear end me. My husband stills says "yellow is caution" and "red means stop". So I guess "yellow means stop" now. Boy, things do change in a hurry. Now we have to teach our children that "yellow means STOP".
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